A Crash Course in Feminism Mk. II (or, why everyone should be a feminist)

[Psychosplodge]

oh I'm well aware, if there wasn't a hill in the way I'd probably be able to see Orgreave from here.

[Wildeybeast]

i can never forgive margeret thatcher for the damage she did to my family, my villiage, my comunity, my home county, she destroyed the economy of a whole region and its still a wreck to this day.

people forget we didnt just lose the pits , we lost there supliers. mundane and specalist, we lost the industries that thrived on cheep local coal. steal mills. and heavy foundries closed as well. with no industries to pay wages the luxuries closed down or moved away.

i witnessed my community destroyed even now after all this time its a shadow of what it was the only growing bussines there is drug deeling and theft.

the sad truth is that if you where not there you dont know and would find hard to believe the actions of the authorities / police if you think what south yorkshire police did at hillsbrough was bad thats nothing compered to what was coverd up about augreive ( sorry spelling )

anyways back on topic more women in politics would be great just no more like her please.


[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61980YP1Yvk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61980YP1Yvk[/URL]

only 28 mins long hope some of our bols guys watch it .

My dad was forced to police the pit strikes and he assures me that those picketing were just as bad as those policing (and by that he means the Met who apparently earned the eternal contempt of their northern colleagues during that debacle).

I also notice that when everyone blames Maggie for destroying mining communities, no one mentions the fact that subsequent governments seem to have done bugger all to fix them in the intervening 30 years.

[Wolfshade]

I also notice that when everyone blames Maggie for destroying mining communities, no one mentions the fact that subsequent governments seem to have done bugger all to fix them in the intervening 30 years.

True that.

There is an issue with the inflated wages that made things too expensive like at the Austin.

Ho hum.

[wayne williams]

this isnt the miners strike thread so ill try not to de rail it. but while im sure your dad was right about what he saw ( especially towards the end of the strike after the event at orgreave that was the game changer ) the behavior of the miners was as a result of earlier police actions. in my opinion.
i was there though only a teenager standing with my father and uncles during a very peecefull ( if loud )protest outside hatfeild colliery and was charged by police on horse back who where backed up with police with shields and batons and other police with dogs as bad tempered as the miners became towards the end they had non of those things. and really would they ( my father and uncles ) have let me come along if they intended for violence i dont think so.

only half of what took place was reported. oh and another thing where did all of the really short police men suddenly come from not the local army barracks im sure.

and yes after 30 years of governments continuing to ignore the whole area of the country they have to take some blame but most should be given to the one who commited the act of destruction in nthe first place .

i hope mr wildebeast youl take the time to watch this link i understand its quite long but for those of us who where there it felt close to a civil war a complete betrayel by our government and our police and to this day neither are trusted in whats left of the pit villagers of this country.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7DZSagDI4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7DZSagDI4[/URL]

[60-second swordsman]

My take: I don't know if the thread title is tongue-in-cheek ("why everyone should be feminist"), but I 100% agree with it. Everyone should, in fact, be feminist. Everyone don't have to call themselves feminist (I don't, because I don't subscribe to "isms") but they should practice the idea, just as everyone should practice racial and ethnic tolerance, and just as everyone should practice masculinism in a hypothetical matriarchal society. It should be the norm, and it baffles me that it isn't. When I hear that women make less money for the same work (or in several local examples even more work) I get really worked up.

I'm a man and I work in a field that's dominated by women and I make just as much (or little, to be more accurate) as my female colleagues that do the same amount of work, and unless you're incredibly selfish, conservative* and well... unreasonable, to express myself politely, I don't see why anyone would have it any other way.

How it's been in the past can't be changed, but a gender-equal future can be made and should actively be worked towards.

*I don't mean to rip on conservatives. I agree with a lot of conservative ideas, but in this context it is a very bad thing.

[Psychosplodge]

[eldargal]

My take: I don't know if the thread title is tongue-in-cheek ("why everyone should be feminist"), but I 100% agree with it. Everyone should, in fact, be feminist. Everyone don't have to call themselves feminist (I don't, because I don't subscribe to "isms") but they should practice the idea, just as everyone should practice racial and ethnic tolerance, and just as everyone should practice masculinism in a hypothetical matriarchal society. It should be the norm, and it baffles me that it isn't. When I hear that women make less money for the same work (or in several local examples even more work) I get really worked up.

It's not tongue in cheek. People certainly don't have to label themselves at feminist, really the only thing I hope people do is explain to their friends and co-workers and whatnot why their behaviour is problematic if they do something like tell a rape joke or objectify a woman or whatever. Break down the bro culture of patriarchy at a grass roots level.

[URL="http://www.policymic.com/articles/80229/23-awesome-feminist-digital-campaigns-that-changed-the-world?utm_source=policymicTBLR&utm_medium=social&u tm_campaign=Feb"]23 Inspiring Feminist Digital Campaigns That Changed The World In 2013[/URL]. Because anti-feminists are quick to claim that feminists don't actually do anything, here is a list of 23 social media campaigns that effected real change in 2013 alone.

[Mr Mystery]

If people don't like Feminism, there's a cast iron, sure fire way to make it all go away.

And that's equality. Funny that!

[Wolfshade]

So I was in Mass last night and the Gospel reading was about the adulterous woman, (well it is actually about scribes and pharisees trying to tip Jesus up, anyway) the story goes that a woman caught in the act of adultery was brought before Jesus to see what his judgement would be. But what struck me (for the first time) was why the man wasn't caught and brought forward to be stoned, after all it takes two to tangle.

perhaps just a reflection of the double standards of the time..

[Gotthammer]

"of the time" lol