A Crash Course in Feminism Mk. II (or, why everyone should be a feminist)

[YorkNecromancer]

Not sure that's true - there's no data to support it, after all, and Emperor knows, if you're going to say anything in this thread, you better have all the data in the f***ing world to back it up.

But I'd like it to be true. It would say something positive about people. (Although, of course, that's why I suspect it's not.)

Interesting article in The Guardian. They've recently been covering women's issues more explicitly, and have subsequently run into serious problems with the usual misogynist chuckleheads (surprise surprise). They're thinking of getting rid of the anonymous commenting system as a result - forcing people to own their words.

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/10/readers-editor-online-abuse-women-issues[/url]

[Wolfshade]

I'd love to believe that, truly I would. But I think it really is what sells, because it's familiar, and people prefer things that are familiar to things that are new, even if they don't like them.

This is so true and almost universal. Consider say anti-vaxxers, there are countless studies and research showing that the vaccinces are safe and effective. Then you have one person jump up and down who says things that they believe and boom, they think that one persons opiionion is more important than the independent research. Why? Because it agrees with their world views.

It's why all the boys lust after the goth girl, even if they'd never admit it.

There are several reasons for this

1. Goth Girls are Easy (c.f. LBD)
2. There music selection should be good.
3. They are probably reasonably intelligent.

[eldargal]

Interesting article in The Guardian. They've recently been covering women's issues more explicitly, and have subsequently run into serious problems with the usual misogynist chuckleheads (surprise surprise). They're thinking of getting rid of the anonymous commenting system as a result - forcing people to own their words.

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/10/readers-editor-online-abuse-women-issues[/url]

It will be interesting to see how much their experience changes when they end anonymous comments. People love to blame anonymity for this sort of thing and it is certainly an element but as blogs like Facebook Sexism show people are often happy to be astoundingly misogynist even when someone can click on their name and literally inform their mother. Sadly a lot of men are plain mosogynist and this idea it is a handful of easily identifiable creepy/monstrous men is just wrong. Most of them are just regular men.

[Mr Mystery]

I see you said #mostofthemareregularmen and #notallmen.....

*exits stage left*

[Gotthammer]

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[Mr Mystery]

Chainsaw/Leg interface required?

And the little anecdote? Less said about that the better.

And never, EVER obtain a girl's phone number (or indeed, anyone's phone number) from anyone but them.

[Wolfshade]

Ask Maureen: "Oh she is cheap"

[Mr Mystery]

It's not Grape if you're a gentleman, because nice guys don't do grape. Even when the girl is asking for it, because you're a nice guy.

*Added G due to work filter, rather than cheapening issue.

[eldargal]

[URL="http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/07/24/3463683/no-isis-isnt-ordering-female-genital-mutilation-in-iraq/"]So claims that ISIS were instituting mass female genital mutilation was a hoax playing on Western obsessions[/URL]. I did note at the time it was really out of character even for filth like ISIS.

[URL="http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0102172;jsessi onid=C78120459544C42151EB20655055583E#s3"]Study finds 76% of female scientists[/URL] who do field work are sexually harassed and about a quarter sexually assaulted.
Must be false though obviously because Richrd Dawkins says there is no misogyny in science.

[URL="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2014/07/14/the-lowest-difficulty-setting-in-action/"]25 year year study illustrates white privilege in action.[/URL]

[URL="http://skepchick.org/2014/07/craft-beverage-people-do-better/"]Sexism and racism in the craft beer industry.[/URL] US based article, would be interesting to look at our industry here. I can't say I've noticed it myself but then I tend to just focus on a small band of stout and porter producers who seem to be more conservative in their labelling.

[Mr Mystery]

Craft Beer. Bah. Just call it microbrewed/crap and be done with it. There's nothing 'crafted' about it.

Article itself doesn't seem to want to load...but yeah. No need for racy labelling. Puns? Oh yes. Even relatively crude ones. But let's keep the following picture a thing of the past yeah?

Nope, can't find one. But Tennant's Special - when I were a kid, the cans had semi-clothed ladies on them. Because reasons.

Thankfully here in the UK, advertisers aren't allowed to associate the drink with the sex.