1850 Wraith Army

[Dave Mcturk]

the trouble under the brand new codex is that although wraith units are cheaper and better only axe boys get an invulnerable save... [damn those ap 2 weapons ]

if you must go for an open advance phalanx try using the DE baron and a spirit seer which should get you a 4+ cover save...
another option ive tried with some success is Illic... who comes with built in shrouded...

i play a lot of DE opponents so never had much joy with wraithlords ! but in a series of games they MAY get their points back...

assume its a typo but at 1850 you only get two HQ's ?

[Garradh]

the trouble under the brand new codex is that although wraith units are cheaper and better only axe boys get an invulnerable save... [damn those ap 2 weapons ]

if you must go for an open advance phalanx try using the DE baron and a spirit seer which should get you a 4+ cover save...
another option ive tried with some success is Illic... who comes with built in shrouded...

i play a lot of DE opponents so never had much joy with wraithlords ! but in a series of games they MAY get their points back...

assume its a typo but at 1850 you only get two HQ's ?

Iyanden list, 1-5 Spiritseers is one HQ. Veil of Twilight rewards you for playing your Wraith units very aggressively and in a relatively tight group. An opponent can throw their heavy firepower at the Wraithguard and ignore the Wraithlords, or they can throw their high-S low-AP weapons at the Wraithlords and deal with the Wraithguards getting across the board.

I haven't played against DE yet and I would love to. Tau will also be problematic. I honestly don't think I would bother taking this list to a tournament . . . maybe after further revision and more experience.

[Dave Mcturk]

mmm... might have to get the supplement... right con that its not all in one codex !

[Dave Mcturk]

i mean at 40 odd points for a warlock and 50 odd on a bike.. a 70 pts 2 wound spiritseer is a bargain... and they are ld9... so spells might even work !

[Garradh]

Two games this weekend, both against GKs, both one-sided roflstomps. I'm hoping the meta at my FLGS shifts soon, Draigoballs run by players terrified of Wave Serpents aren't much of a challenge. Both games had a Lucky Wraithlord kill . . . one Lucky Wraithlord blew up a Stormraven with Draigo inside, another Lucky Wraithlord blew up a Land Raider with Draigo inside. Oh well. The new SM book will be out soon and that should present some unique challenges to a Wraith army.

[Learn2Eel]

I can't believe people are using Draigoballs still!

Nice list by the way, I've just started up my own one and have been looking all over at army lists - including yours - to see how people run Wraith armies these days. I'm planning on doing a good old fashioned wraithwall list at first, but I'll probably transition into Serpent Wraiths as I build more mechdar army up.

[Garradh]

Many games later, I question how much I need . . . some Waveserpent Upgrades! The WS I buy for one of my Wraithguard units (who can't actually ride in it, wooo options) acts as a great gunboat. Since my army is so offense-oriented, it's nice to have one model sit in the back and blast away at the enemy with all that S6 and S7 goodness. However, in a target-rich environment where antitank is going toward my Wraithlords and Wraithguard, it doesn't take that many shots.

I'm thinking of dropping its Holo-fields and possibly its shuriken cannon. This has me wondering where else I can shave combat-ineffective points to return my #20 Wraithguard and #8 Dire Avenger back into the game.

Speaking of #8 Dire Avenger, these guys don't see a lot of board time. I might switch them over to be 10 guardians (91 pts vs 80 pts) . . . . thoughts?

[Dave Mcturk]

beginning to hate the fact that axe-guard only get 1 measly attack at In1.... looks like they mite be getting their guns back !

[Dave Mcturk]

if you have spare HS slots free... 3 reapers are only 90pts and they can pull a Serpent as DT...

[Garradh]

if you have spare HS slots free... 3 reapers are only 90pts and they can pull a Serpent as DT...

War walker squadron and 2 Wraithlords. WWs might get swapped for Hornets, waiting to get my hands on rules for their new cost. 12 Pulse Laser shots . . . mmm. Word on the street is 240 points.