Deep Striking Vehicles

[Blackcloud6]

Can all vehicles deep strike?

Can they do so from Reserves?

[Tynskel]

oi, man. you need to read the rulebook.

[Blackcloud6]

oi, man. you need to read the rulebook.

Thanks for being helpful.

[Tynskel]

Thanks for being helpful.

seriously, I am being helpful. Your question is so far removed from the rules, which means, you need to actually read the rules.

You basically asked, "How do I play warhammer 40k", and the proper response would be "get the rulebook".

[Denzark]

Can all vehicles deep strike?

No

Can they do so from Reserves?

No

oi, man. you need to read the rulebook.

He has a point.

[Blackcloud6]

The rulebook is not really clear. It says models must have the deep strike special rule, but later says "Vehicle, except for Walkers, count as moved..." One could think that all vehicles could deep strike. So your answer could have been, and taken almost the same amount of time: "No, the answer lies in the special rules of each vehicle in its Codex."

Now, then, that is settled, one can actually Deep Strike in, say a Rhino, using a Thunderhawk Transporter, but since it is likely that none of us can or are willing to afford the almost $1000 Forge World model, it is unlikely that anyone will do this.

So the correct answer was not "read the rulebook" because the rule book says nothing about the Thunderhawk Transporter and the Thunderhawk Transporter is a means to deep strike in do not have the deep Strike Special Rule.

So, next time, I may suggest to you, if you have nothing to add, politely move on to the next thread without responding. (I've noticed you have used the "read the rule book" response a few other times when actually a good discussion from the question actually did take place and your answer seemingly was ignored)

[DWest]

A better generalization would be, "The default answer to anything is 'no', until specified otherwise by rules and/or wargear."
Can a vehicle deep strike? No, until it is given rules or wargear permitting it to do so.
Can a vehicle shoot at an enemy unit? No, until it is given rules (a BS score) and wargear (a weapon) permitting it to do so.
Is a Tactical Marine anything other than a 28mm tall lump of grey plastic? No, until it is given rules and wargear permitting it to be used in game.

Conversely, just because there exists rules for how to do something, does not automatically confer the ability to perform that action.
Just because there are rules for Deep Striking a vehicle, does not grant all vehicles Deep Strike.
Just because there are rules for transporting infantry in a vehicle, does not make all vehicles transports.
Just because there are rules for moving vehicles, does not make all vehicles mobile.

[Blackcloud6]

A better generalization would be, "The default answer to anything is 'no', until specified otherwise by rules and/or wargear."
Can a vehicle deep strike? No, until it is given rules or wargear permitting it to do so.
Can a vehicle shoot at an enemy unit? No, until it is given rules (a BS score) and wargear (a weapon) permitting it to do so.
Is a Tactical Marine anything other than a 28mm tall lump of grey plastic? No, until it is given rules and wargear permitting it to be used in game.

Conversely, just because there exists rules for how to do something, does not automatically confer the ability to perform that action.
Just because there are rules for Deep Striking a vehicle, does not grant all vehicles Deep Strike.
Just because there are rules for transporting infantry in a vehicle, does not make all vehicles transports.
Just because there are rules for moving vehicles, does not make all vehicles mobile.

Very well put, thank you.

This game has a basic rule book but then many Codexes, compendiums, add-ons and FAQs that modify the basic rules, sometimes for certain situations or forces or whatever. I've found that asking a question that looks to have an obvious answer (from the main RB for example) sometimes yields an unexpected answer or caveat from one of the other sources.

[Magpie]

Just to clarify a minor point, nothing can Deep Strike from Reserves.

To Deep Strike you must be in Deep Strike Reserve. Might sound pedantic but I have often had to point out to guys that once a unit is in Deep Strike Reserve the only way it can leave it (barring weird special rules) is by Deep Striking, you cannot enter as a normal reserve.

[Tynskel]

The rulebook is not really clear. It says models must have the deep strike special rule, but later says "Vehicle, except for Walkers, count as moved..." One could think that all vehicles could deep strike. So your answer could have been, and taken almost the same amount of time: "No, the answer lies in the special rules of each vehicle in its Codex."

Now, then, that is settled, one can actually Deep Strike in, say a Rhino, using a Thunderhawk Transporter, but since it is likely that none of us can or are willing to afford the almost $1000 Forge World model, it is unlikely that anyone will do this.

So the correct answer was not "read the rulebook" because the rule book says nothing about the Thunderhawk Transporter and the Thunderhawk Transporter is a means to deep strike in do not have the deep Strike Special Rule.

So, next time, I may suggest to you, if you have nothing to add, politely move on to the next thread without responding. (I've noticed you have used the "read the rule book" response a few other times when actually a good discussion from the question actually did take place and your answer seemingly was ignored)

Yeah , read the rulebook. Because your quotation the you are reading is clearly not a 'unclear rule' but more of someone who doesn't understand the rulebook. The rulebook makes it quite clear: you have to have the deep strike rule to be able to deep strike. The part where you are reading the deep strike rule is ONLY describing what occurs to units that HAVE deep struck.

This is a reading comprehension issue, and the only way to solve it is to read the rulebook.