Terran Origins of the Death guard - HELP!!!

[Kirsten]

Atlan could reference Atlantis, which some theorize that was off the coast of Albania. With other fluff that indicated that the oceans had shrank to about 1/10th of the original size, that would mean that Atlantis would now be above water. thus having cities "towering over the wilderness of Atlan"

true, could also be the Atlantic ocean though, for the same ocean shrinking reason

[Wolfshade]

I dislike the Albanian theory, it only started to be known during the medievel period and more comonly with a -tia ending.

With it being landlocked it can't tower amid the Atlan wastes. It is part of the same euroasian plate that contains the imperial palace

Also, if we consider a map of the old warhammer world, it is very much a contorted world map.

There, of the coast of Bretonnia is a place called Albion:

Now while I completely acknowledge that the old world and 40k's terra are seperate locations they are clearly meant to be symbolic of our earth. The writters are of common heritage and there is a lot of crossover.
Finally, (and it is a weak argument) with the authors being English it is most likely that the only people able to stand against the thunderwarriors and being enfolded peacefully being also of "english" origin.

[Cpt Codpiece]

"were drawn from the ancient and warlike clans of Old Albia"
as mentioned Albion is the british isles

"drawn from Old Albia's towering soot-blackened Castram-cities"
again as mentioned "castrum" refers to the castle/fortress cities of England, which were and still are on the old cities, soot grimed from the industrial age with coal. on a side note my home town in its true old name is Novacsatria.... Newcastle.

"Old Albia, towering amid the northern Atlan wilderness"
yeah Albion sits in the atlantic and north seas

"the Emperor spoke to the warlords' parliament"
we have the parliament houses in London and there is another quote from corax where the password for the gene vault is a message in London.

"the Ironsides of Old Albia"
as mentioned civil war

"a breed of relentless warlords and soldier-scientists"
well this could well be a reflection on our warmongering PM's of recent years.... you know the war criminal blair and the terrorist funding cameron. but then bush and obama are no different... hand in hand if you will

"the Albians met the Emperor's Thunder Regiments with their own batallions of steam-belching proto-dreadnoughts and armoured Ironsides soldiers"
again a refrence to the victorian industrial age.... the setting of steampunk.

So where is that?
Oh England!

[T-ORK-amada]

Uilliam the Red is from Albyon in the fluff, which is clearly England. Also Albania is as old as Greece and Roman. It just wasn't a Rebublic until later in history. Albania has been a region since before the Macedonians.

[Nabterayl]

"were drawn from the ancient and warlike clans of Old Albia"
as mentioned Albion is the british isles

"drawn from Old Albia's towering soot-blackened Castram-cities"
again as mentioned "castrum" refers to the castle/fortress cities of England, which were and still are on the old cities, soot grimed from the industrial age with coal. on a side note my home town in its true old name is Novacsatria.... Newcastle.

"Old Albia, towering amid the northern Atlan wilderness"
yeah Albion sits in the atlantic and north seas

"the Emperor spoke to the warlords' parliament"
we have the parliament houses in London and there is another quote from corax where the password for the gene vault is a message in London.

"the Ironsides of Old Albia"
as mentioned civil war

"a breed of relentless warlords and soldier-scientists"
well this could well be a reflection on our warmongering PM's of recent years.... you know the war criminal blair and the terrorist funding cameron. but then bush and obama are no different... hand in hand if you will

"the Albians met the Emperor's Thunder Regiments with their own batallions of steam-belching proto-dreadnoughts and armoured Ironsides soldiers"
again a refrence to the victorian industrial age.... the setting of steampunk.

So where is that?
Oh England!

+1 to all of this. Death Guard are English.

[Cpt Codpiece]

ablania does not have any links to the story pointers other than the Aquila flag and similar name.

and it would have been covered in the europa hive rather than being a separate entity in 40k fluff...... the europa hive was supposed to go to india/indus and then the Himalayas were the center of the imperial palace.

[Psychosplodge]

Didn't only the Emperor and Emperor's Children use the Aquila at that point too?

[Cpt Codpiece]

well nearly right, garro had an Aquila cuiras and mantle.

other than the primarchs... which we only really know of 2 so far armour wise................................ that's it as far as we have been told.

[albertsevil]

Grahame MacNeil's short story The Last Church may support the argument that Alba is Britain/Albion. The story focuses on the last church in, importantly, one of the last areas to fall to the Emperor. While the story does not reference Alba specifically, I couldn't help but think of it and re-read it as soon as I read the new Fore World 'fluff' for the Death Guard. At least to me some things just seem to link:

"In ages past, the mountain had been the tallest peak upon a storm-lashed island shrouded in mists" (Ben Nevis upon Britain which classically was often described as shrouded in mists)
"linked to the mainland by a sleek bridge of silver, but ancient, apocalyptic wars had boiled away many of the oceans, and the island was now simply a rocky promontory" (the Atlantic having boiled away leaving a barren plain, possibly exposing Atlantis)
"jutting from a land that was said to have once ruled the world" (reference to the British Empire)

The "silver bridge" crosses "to Europa" (Europe) and "Franc" (France) which were are described as being under the rule of the the Emperor before the fall of the priest's own land.

Link to more info on the short story:
[url]http://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_Last_Church[/url]

[T-ORK-amada]

Try googling Albanian dusk raiders. You get your answers.