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    Default 2000 points black legion

    well,my army list.How can i improve it for a tournament?

    +Kinkimarkis el Engañoso (Daemon prince of Tzeentch) @ 200 Pts
    Mark of Tzeentch; wings; warptime; Bolt of change

    +Karmarhis Lanzanegra (Chaos lord) @ 170 Pts
    Melta Bombs ; Chaos bike Daemon weapon;Personal Icon

    ++9 chaos marines(+ champion with power weapon and melta bombs),2 flamers,rhino( extra armour) and chaos glory @ 255 Pts
    2 squads: @ 510 Pts

    ++8 summoned daemons @ 104
    2 squads: @ 208

    +4 chaos bikers(+ champion with power fist),2 meltaguns and chaos glory @ 235 Pts

    +7 chosen chaos space marines(+ champion with power fist),2 meltaguns,2 flamers,rhino( extra armour) and chaos glory @ 269 Pts

    +6 chaos havocs,4 missile launcher and chaos glory @ 180 Pts

    +3 obliterators @ 225 Pts

    total: 1997

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    Hi Agramar!

    It looks like a pretty tight list. I only have a few comments.

    1. You're spending 20pts for the Power Weapon and the Meltabombs. I'd just spend the extra 5pts for the Power Fist instead.

    2. Four special weapons seems a bit much for that Chosen squad. It makes them a pretty big target.

    3. You have a Power Fist and 2 Meltaguns in your bike squad. I'd drop the Meltabombs off the Chaos Lord.

    4. Id' probably go with Autocannons on the Havocs (or just drop them for 2 more Obliterators or a Defiler). You'd end up with a more flexible unit with any of those suggestions.

    Best of luck and post the list you decide on!

    -- Mkerr
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    I think Raptors > Bikes.

    5 Raptors, 2 Meltaguns, ability to hide behind a Rhino or DS in - 120 points
    3 Bikes, 2 Meltas, ability to get a 3+cover that'll not improve their save against high AP weapons, T5 against small arms - 119
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkerr View Post
    Hi Agramar!

    It looks like a pretty tight list. I only have a few comments.

    1. You're spending 20pts for the Power Weapon and the Meltabombs. I'd just spend the extra 5pts for the Power Fist instead.

    2. Four special weapons seems a bit much for that Chosen squad. It makes them a pretty big target.

    3. You have a Power Fist and 2 Meltaguns in your bike squad. I'd drop the Meltabombs off the Chaos Lord.

    4. Id' probably go with Autocannons on the Havocs (or just drop them for 2 more Obliterators or a Defiler). You'd end up with a more flexible unit with any of those suggestions.

    Best of luck and post the list you decide on!

    -- Mkerr
    1-hummm that's just iuse in every army list.I want to try something different but classics things always work...

    2-you have the whole reason. But they distract enough and kill very much ...another and best option?

    3-humm ok

    4-grrrrr i hate defilers!!Too big, too fragile and too expensive!
    Instead of using a defiler...much better a vindicator?

    Thank you for the advices!
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