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    Blackadder's Lucius Pattern Reaver

    Yes before anyone quips that I am crazy (but in a good way) let me acknowledge the fact.

    Anyway I have been posed the problem of designing (And building) armour for a FW Mars Pattern Reaver à la mode Lucius Pattern. And before you ask, "No I don't do commissions!" however if anyone is inclined to follow along with this thread and build their own armour components they are welcome and I will answer any questions as we proceed.

    Let me begin by stating that the Reaver is my second least favorite titan I see no need for it.

    My biggest fault with the Lucius pattern attempts at the Reaver is trying to duplicate the contours of the Mars Pattern with slabs of plasticard. This gives the titan a sloped shoulder hunchbacked appearance that connotes weakness to my jaundiced eye. I intend to remodel the armour in a Lucius vein much as the Lucius Warhound carapace completely departs from the Mars Pattern carapace.

    The first order of business is to design a new helmet shape for the FW Reaver cockpit. I think the head of the titans should be reminiscent of each other and sort of morph in shape from Warhound to Reaver to Warlord; evolve if you will.

    So my design will be that middle ground and be domed, not the flattish pancake head of the FW model:

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/Eacq2bP.jpg[/url]


    There will be a short snouted appearance reminiscent of the Warhound not apparent in the front view
    Last edited by Blackadder; 07-27-2013 at 08:39 AM.
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    I'll be looking forward to seeing the subsequent updates of this thread.
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    Reaver Carapace Renovation

    Really bad concept art Blackadder but it does convey the intent.....
    [url]http://i.imgur.com/309WL5P.jpg[/url]


    We've all seen them; beautifully rendered scratchbuilt Lucius Pattern Reavers that faithfully mimic the arms and armament of the Mars product but somehow they leave me cold. That trapezoidal carapace design, the hexagonal Apoc Rocket Pod (shades of the Armorcast original) and reminding me of that Surinam toad (No I won't include pictures of that again you can google it if you have the stomach....... :P )

    I propose (represented in my pitiful sketches above) an Apoc 10 rocket battery on either side of the main carapace that pop up as required and snap down to give a clean front/side view of the side armour

    Chest and back armour roughly angular in shape but the side carapaces jutting at slightly less than 90° to the perpendicular.

    Naturally all the leg and waist armour will be angular copies of the Mars original and interchangeable with the FW original pieces and held in place with magnets so in effect there will be two; a Lucius and a Mars for the price of one.

    Priceless!
    Last edited by Blackadder; 07-27-2013 at 10:31 AM.
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    "This is madness" - "Madness? . . . THIS IS Blackadder!!!! *blam* Heresy!"

    sooo looking forward to seeing this evolve!

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    Fitting the Torso Front to the Main Torso

    I should have my head examined for taking this on but I couldn't resist trying to retrofit a Lucius Pattern armour scheme to an actual Reaver.

    First I must fit the parts together so my modifications will fit when the model is assembled.

    I want all the Lucius armour parts to be interchangeable with the original Mars armour and all the fasteners hidden so daunting as this task may be, its worth a go.

    Below are the crude tools needed to shape the rough sections so they will interlock tightly, What is amazing to me is the precision fit of this model's castings.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/hvC6xGI.jpg[/url]


    Simply cutting and filing the flash and rough interstices allow the parts to interlock with a close tolerance.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/Zk5Rg7t.jpg[/url]


    Flipping the hull upside down show the good fit achieved without need for glue or reinforcement. Magnets may be all that is required to keep this assembly together.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/miBx3lD.jpg[/url]


    The lower breast plate armour will be the first piece to fabricate. Here you see the Mars armour in place and ready to be duplicated in styrene.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/9XidlOr.jpg[/url]
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    Breast Plate Armour

    The problem is to achieve the angularity of the Lucius armour without bulking up the rounded Mars panels. I have chosen to represent the Mars armour rather than cover it in styrene.

    This will give a leaner look to the finished model. That and the innovations I shall be implementing will hopefully make for a unique Reaver style that is more battle-worthy in design.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/KXfkGa1.jpg[/url]
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    Reaver Breast Plate Armour 2

    Here we see the two ways I intend to approach duplicating the Mars armour in the Lucius pattern.

    The chest plate will directly replace the original Mars armour and will be held in place with magnets and aligning lugs. The original armour will have corresponding attachments so they can be interchanged.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/a7s1aNd.jpg[/url]


    The forward side armour will duplicate the moulded in Mars armour and clip over the original and likewise be held on with hidden magnets so when removed the Mars armour will be revealed and intact.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/YNxQuBX.jpg[/url]


    So far this idea is working.
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    Reaver Hull Armour 3

    Fortunately there is a clip on shelf to fasten the rear lower vent armour. I made the clip out of a strip of 40 X 80 styrene and started the forward depth strip in the following image. Once completed it will be a simple matter of unclipping the Lucius armour to convert to the Mars armour.


    [url]http://i.imgur.com/h48uo1O.jpg[/url]



    [url]http://i.imgur.com/pqnAkId.jpg[/url]



    [url]http://i.imgur.com/myMMJVo.jpg[/url]


    Couldn't have worked better if it were planned!
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    Reaver Hull Armour 4

    Copying the internal contours of the Mars armour is not as simple as these images portray. The problem is to not bulk up the Lucius covers to a point were they distort the overall grace of the model. Granted the Lucius pattern armour is a crude facsimile of the elegant Mars armour but it should not overwhelm the mechanical works so as to appear ungainly.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/gPpoDsF.jpg[/url]


    Employing the gap of the filigree border of the armour I added thin strips 0,25 mm for a gluing base and added strips of 0,3, 0,5, 0,75 and 1,0 mm casing so at no area have I added more that 2,0 mm to the overall size of the panel i.e. 1,0 mm to each side.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/Y3qY1SL.jpg[/url]


    I apologize for the fuzzy image.

    Shaving down the edges so the Void generator housings fit snuggly in place required no alterations in the Mars armour so the basic model is not compromised in any way other than the usual adjusting required in your typical FW project.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/qgakQUa.jpg[/url]


    Aside from a minor cut out around a hidden conduit cable housing the fit is pretty good.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/GT3CMOi.jpg[/url]


    I intend to angle the housing around the rear facing vent on a separate piece.
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    Oh SNAP!

    I'm off to buy a lawnchair and a margarita machine. This project is going to be epic.
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