Codex Chaos Space Marines MKII

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Over in Disqus (Larry Vela's CSM Editorial) I made a sweeping comment.
I said we should try and make an errata document that "fixed" csm! Big talk.
So I'm here, as promised to ask you all to take part, let's crowdsource this thing!
BOLS has put together lists before, what we're planning here is different. The idea is to adjust the framework of the codex to allow a more flexible codex that will cover all legions.
Here are my first 5 thoughts;
1.
Errata the Icon of Vengence to grant the unit a new USR
(I need help deciding which) and act as a teleport homer
2.
Add Mark of Chaos Undivided
10pts for an IC or 2pts/model
Grants the Bearer Fearless
And add Deamon of Chaos Undivided rule to Deamon Prince which allows him to act as a locator beacon for 15 pts.
3.
Allow any IC with a mark to make cult marines troops (including Deamon Princes)
4.
allow mutilators and warptalons to assault from deepstrike
5.
add the drop-pod to the dedicated transport list BUT with access to CSM vehicle upgrades where they'd fit as opposed to marine ones.

Thoughts, you own ideas, so-one. We'll combine the most promising bits together and see about making a simple PDF we can playtest!
Over to you BOLS crew, show the stuff that made this community what it is!

[Mr Mystery]

So back to just Spiky Marines then?

[Kaptain Badrukk]

So back to just Spiky Marines then?

You're missing the point here. The idea is to bring back the flavor. If we end up with "Spikey Marines" we've failed.
If you have better ideas then contribute then correct me, but sitting on the sidelines sneering only does you a disservice.
BOLS posters obviously care about this community and what it has to offer. Join in!
I want you (in a non-slaaneshi way)!
We all ***** and moan about things, well why not be proactive and try to make them better
Let this be a place for positive development, not negativity. Save that for Warseer.

[Siris Le Osiris]

Giving Chaos up to 6 units in a force org that could assault from deep strike would be utterly broken.
Every shooting army in the game would be auto toast.

[Obispal]

I think it really needed a special character from each of the other turned legions (Iron Warriors= Honsou, Night Lords= Talos etc.), with these unlock the old FOC bonuses from 3rd.

And believe that mark of chaos undivided should make a unit fearless and that the Chaos Relics need a serious overhaul, i mean only seen half of the list ever used

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Giving Chaos up to 6 units in a force org that could assault from deep strike would be utterly broken.
Every shooting army in the game would be auto toast.

Still not quite getting how this works, but ok.
How would you make them "worth taking" without breaking them then?
This is what we're aiming for, don't like something so propose how to fix it.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

I think it really needed a special character from each of the other turned legions (Iron Warriors= Honsou, Night Lords= Talos etc.), with these unlock the old FOC bonuses from 3rd.

And believe that mark of chaos undivided should make a unit fearless

Obispal! You GET IT!!!!
Ok so we agree on Mark of Undivided, good start.
We need statlines, rules and whotnot for Iron Warriors Characters.
I'd suggest staying away from novel characters (or at least major ones) as it can get pretty contentious as to the real "how they are".
But there are plenty of named guys out there who we could tweak and existing template to fit

[DrLove42]

Deamonic Possession giving some kind of a PotMS rule (so make Land Raiders a viable option, so it can move and shoot) would be good

The auto challenge thing is great and fluffy and should stay but does need some kind of tweak, i'm just not sure what

[Obispal]

I think for the Iron Warriors Character, make him a Warpsmith with+1 Wound,FNP 6+ (for his bionics),Hatred (Imperial Fists + Imperial Fist Successors),Stubborn. With the options for a conversion beamer, tank hunters and counterattack

And Unlocks a FOC trade, 1 fast attack for a extra Heavy support Choice

[Obispal]

Deamonic Possession giving some kind of a PotMS rule (so make Land Raiders a viable option, so it can move and shoot) would be good

The auto challenge thing is great and fluffy and should stay but does need some kind of tweak, i'm just not sure what


maybe a leadership check to not challenge