Allies - Likey or No Likey?

[YorkNecromancer]

Well?

[Mr Mystery]

Long as there's a narrative I'm happy!

[Archon Charybdis]

I don't see an "I like allies - all of the above."

[Dimitrios]

I do like the concept of allies and I like the fluff elements they bring in; the Ultramar planitary defence force, Imperial Guard bolstering a besieged Fortress Monestary, Chaos working with Ork Freebooters to loot an imperial world.

My main issue with it however is that it is too open for abuse and doesnt really introduce a real penality. I appreciate the constraint comes in the form of the FOC restriction but this is too easy to circumnavigate and it allows for some truely unbalanced combinations.

If it were up to me I would have put in a points cost restriction to ensure that allies only consisted of 25% of any army value.

[Katharon]

Several of the decisions made in organizing which army is what level of allies with whom were severely skewed. Much as we discussed in the DE/E Troop choice thread.

[YorkNecromancer]

I don't see an "I like allies - all of the above."

That's what the comment boxes are for.

Much as we discussed in the DE/E Troop choice thread.

Well, that was the inspiration for this thread.

Several of the decisions made in organizing which army is what level of allies with whom were severely skewed.

Specific examples? (Genuinely curious, not trolling. Again, hence this thread. )

[silashand]

I don't see an "I like allies - all of the above."

I need one that says "I dislike allies - all of the above."

Despite all the claims to the contrary by some players, 99.9% of all the allies I have seen are nothing but the most effective element the player can find. Has nothing to do with maintaining the backstory or forging a narrative. It's all about ways to build the most effective combo possible and violate the force org chart restrictions. Allies are great from a fluff perspective, but they are the worst thing to happen to this game from a gameplay one. JMO...

[YorkNecromancer]

I need one that says "I dislike allies - all of the above."

That's what the comment boxes are for.

[Lexington]

Love allies as a concept, but they've obviously not been handled too well in the execution. Toning down the advantages gained by Battle Brothers status would go a long way towards fixing this.

[Katharon]

I'd have put this choice in the poll: "Good -- but needs to be more fluffy." That's my view. Here's what the Matrix would look like, in my mind, if they tried to be as close to the fluff as it could be.

[url=http://imageshack.com/a/img585/3939/zhg4.png]Crazy Fluff Allies Matrix Idea[/url]