Could Mephiston be a perpetual? Who else....

[Blood Shadow]

It just occurred to me that Mephiston's coming out the otherside of the Black rage....he's a master psyker....he came back from certain death....he was swiftly exfiltrated by the Eldar I believe.....

Some similarities with some of the heresy story lines could make a neat revelation.....

Who else in the 40k universe might be one of the perpetuals? Saint Celestine is it? The grey knight justicar dude? The Black Templar chaplin Grimaldus?

Any others?

[Katharon]

The word "perpetual" was created by the Horus Heresy authors to describe the few, select individuals who may or may not be descendants of the Emperor. They are characterized by a number of different ways, not all of them being psykic. While there are some active within the 31st millenium, there are no known "perpetuals" active in the 41st millenium.

Mephiston is not a perpetual. He is an Astartes and a powerful psyker, that is all. He overcame the Red Thirst (Black Rage) through forced deprivation. His mind and psyche were pushed to their absolute limit -- a position from which there are only two options: either he would conquer the Rage or it would consume his mind. He conquered it and by this ascendance through the binds of the Red Thirst, he became far more powerful than your average Blood Angel -- his gene-seed apparently altering his physiology to the point that he became stronger and faster. All of that combined made him what he is today: the Lord of Death.

Saint Celestine is, as her name implies, an Imperial Saint. She is what she is because her physical being is endowed with a small spark of the God-Emperor's power.

Justicar Thawn might be a perpetual, but it is far more likely that his resurrection ability is another gift granted via the Emperor or his own psykic potential. There are other examples of this same resurrection ability other than just Thawn, which leads me to believe that he is not a perpetual.

Grimaldus is definitely not a perpetual. He is simply an Astartes, which means all that that means when you say that a man is an Astartes -- and therefore no longer a man.

[Blood Shadow]

Nice words, I'm familiar with the current 40k canon, I was more thinking since the introduction/ use of perpetuals in the 30k universe ....would it be cool if?

So I know its not canon now, but which characters have storylines which could be retconed to fit the principle.....though I take your points as being its not something you'd like to see...

[Cpt Codpiece]

if any marine is a perpetual (sensi or whatever title you choose) it would be dante...... the old codger is knocking over a thousand years as an astartes and he's still swinging his axe like a young 'un.

mephiston is just an everyday bad-donkey ;P who will no doubt loose his monstrous creature profile when the dex gets ner... re weritten.

[Anggul]

and he's still swinging his axe like a young 'un.

Which is to say, very slowly.

[euansmith]

Which is to say, very slowly.

Why does this forum not have a like button?

[energongoodie]

Great idea Blood Shadow

[Houghten]

Justicar Thawn might be a perpetual, but it is far more likely that his resurrection ability is another gift granted via the Emperor or his own psykic potential. There are other examples of this same resurrection ability other than just Thawn, which leads me to believe that he is not a perpetual.

According to the Eldar in the short story [url=http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/the-ghost-halls-ebook.html]The Ghost Halls[/url], Anval Thawn is a Perpetual.

[Katharon]

According to the Eldar in the short story [url=http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/the-ghost-halls-ebook.html]The Ghost Halls[/url], Anval Thawn is a Perpetual.

Does it state that explicitly?

[Houghten]

"The mon-keigh have found the last Perpetual. Anval Thawn has ascended to the ranks of the Grey Knights."