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    Default Warhammer 40k 7th ed?

    via 40k Radio 12-25-2013

    40k 7th ed is slated for 2014 with fantasy 9th being scrapped for the time being. Apparently the source is the one that has been leaking them the info on SM and their other highly reliable previous rumours......
    via Faeit 12-27-2013
    The next edition of 40k will be called 7th, not 6.5 when it drops, but as far as rules go it will be less of a jump than 5th to 6th.

    The key areas being updated:
    Interceptor, sky fire, fortifications, lords of war, allies and data slates.

    As for its release it'll probably be September not "the summer."

    It's not finished yet, still being tested so anything can happen.

    The thought behind this edition is to make the game less alpha strike explosive and more "competitive" at all points values (even when including Lords of War), but D weapons outside of apocalypse may see alternate rules.

    ps
    Pistols in close combat in 7th
    via 40K Radio 1-24-2014

    Warhammer 7th Edition is a real thing for 2014.
    1) It will purely be a book release.
    2) It could be released as early as May.
    3) Rulebook with incorporate data slates, escalation, stronghold assault, and some tweaks.
    7th Edition Latest - 2-13-2014
    Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition
    7th Edition arrives in May
    -A "true" release
    - Updated fortification fules
    - Integrated super-heavy rules
    - Clarifications and FAQed rules from 6th

    Lower quality chatter speaks of:
    -Overwatch altered to deny shooting next turn
    -Unit to unit assault leaping via consolodation moves returning to the rulese
    via Faeit 4-10-2014

    - 7th 40k edition is only a minor update
    - 40k run is part of the movement phase
    - assault distance is not influenced by terrain, but gives minus two to
    initiative
    - vector strikes allow armour saves, but deal one to six hits
    - 40k uses a percentage system for the army list
    - you can bring as many different allies as you want. You can spend a
    fourth of your points on allies, but they also count as their normal
    category
    - you can bring three allies to a game and must choose one
    - bikes can strike units in 1” in the movement phase without assaulting
    just like chariots, but can attacked back
    - fortification and lords of war rules are in, but no profiles
    - you have to pass a initiative test to shoot overwatching, get minus three
    to ballistic talent
    - you can engage new unit after victory in melee, but enemy can shoot
    overwatch again
    - you can choose to flee if you are charged but can be destroyed
    - if you want to run in 12” of enemy you have to pass a leadertest
    - vehicles get no cover saves against infantry, only against other vehicles

    via everywhere 5-4-2014
    2 new Force Organizations. ("Battle-Forged" or foc And "Unbound" take whatever) battle forge gives bonuses. New Missions using tactics cards in addition to our current Eternal War Missions, a new "Psychic Phase" of the game, and the full article next week.

    New psychic discipline available to everyone but nids(lol). Psychic phase sounds a lot like fantasy.
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    via GW 5-6-2014
    via Faeit 5-7-2014
    Blood Angels are on the cover
    via everywhere 5-7-2014
    Daemonology Description
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    via dakkadakka 5-9-2014
    Allies - tau-astartes Description
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    via DakkaDakka (from the Overlords Podcast) 4-11-2014

    -- So Guys I heard from a pretty reliable source that got to sit down with the book for a few minutes here is what I can remember from what was said.

    1. 4ed consolidate in to combat is in
    2. If you fail to cast a power you can't cast it the rest of the game
    3. Every unit including vehicles will now score
    4. Unbound armies may not contest objectives
    5. Lords of war are in
    6. Escalation and stronghold remain as they are now
    7. Vehicles will be harder to kill the chart changes once more.
    8. The book will come out in 3 options Art like warhammer visions, Fluff book, and one that only contains rules and that one is about as think as the current SM book.
    9.difficult terrain is just -2 inches
    10. Wound allocation has changed a bit.not super clear as to how.
    11. D-weapons toned down but he was unclear as what that meant so from the sounds of it they will still be super ugly. --
    4-12-2014
    Warhammer 7th Edition: Price: roughly $80
    Edition is presented in a new format, 3 hardcover books in a slipcover. Pagecount of all three is about 450 pages in total:

    The Rulebook: @200 pages, only rules

    The Grimdark: @100 pages - Fluff and history of the Warhammer universe

    The Hobby: @100 pages - Full miniatures and hobby book. All splash pics, and intro to the hobby stuff.
    via Descansodelescriba 4-12-2014 (google translated from Spanish...you've been warned)
    7th Edition Rules
    W40K 7th regulations , hard cardboard box and includes, to my surprise 3 separate books . No one regulation in three parts, if not three books diferentes.

    One called Galaxy War , and will be a starter guide in hobby.114 pages with lots of photos of painted miniatures, "painting guide and model "etc.

    Another called Dark Millennium will have 128 pages for a wide background section of the game and the new illustrations of the most famous characters.

    Finally, The Rules , including 208 pages ( Tachan! ) Demonology among psychic powers.

    Pricing: Case 65 Euros and second surprise: In Spanish or English!

    Other Products:
    Tactical Objectives: are 36 cards. English game with goals coming out in the regulations ( as was done in 2nd with Millennium Ominous start box and edición.No that is because I am beginning to believe that's out of box AS 7TH Vs Orks .. . .) It costs 6.50 Euros ( Very cheap, no. trusting I keep my birds. )

    Psychic Cards: box with 50 large letters for Psychic Powers has 6 known more psychic disciplines of Demonology for 12 Euros And you can also buy in Spanish or English.
    via DrLove42 5-12-2014
    Daemonology Psychic Powers
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    7th Edition Pictures - Confirmation of 3 book format
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    Last edited by Bigred; 05-13-2014 at 08:51 PM. Reason: Latest info added
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    this post commandeered in the name of the Realm!

    7th Edition Rumor Roundup - Continued!

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    5-14-2014
    Official Prices

    Attachment 8813

    So, Official release date of the 24th (with pre-orders going up May 17th)

    40K 7th Edition - 3 Volume Slipcover: $85

    Psychic Powers - 50 Cards: $15

    Tactical Objectives - 36 Cards: $8



    Image via DakkaDakka:

    Munitorum Edition:
    Attachment 8814

    Price: $360
    2000 Copies Only
    Comes in heavy-card box
    Extra art book included: "Visions of the Dark Millenium"
    Rulebook is in a smaller size format (150mm x 205mm)
    Large A1 sized Galaxy map
    6 Metal Objective Markers
    36 Tactical Objective Cards (unique design)
    50 Psychic Cards (unique design)
    via Gary's super secret source 5-14-2014

    Psychic tests are no longer leadership tests. You generate your total pool, allocate dice to cast and then roll them. 4+ succeeds. X number of successes are needed to cast the power. 3 successes, for most.

    Certain things can give you a 3+ on the dice, like having an affinity with the discipline. 2 or more 6s you peril. So you can still fail to cast and perils but typically if you got 2 6s you should have passed.

    To stop a power, allocate your warp charge dice and roll deny the witch. 6+ to succeed. 5+ if you have a psyker. +1 if they have a hood. +1 if you're a higher mastery level and nearby the unit being affected. Even powers that do not effect you can be stopped, like blessings.
    Other 7th Edition Stuff 5-14-2014
    Wound allocation is now resolved on a weapon by weapon basis, so for example, no more flamers removing models 2 feet away.

    Snapshots are resolved at -2BS

    The vehicle damage chart has been altered to make vehicles slightly sturdier. They only "explode" on a 7+

    Difficult terrain now reduces the attackers' charge distance by -2 inches.

    Battle-forged Troops have scoring priority over non Troops units. They can claim objectives from non-Troop scoring units!

    Ignore Cover is -2 to the targets's normal cover save
    Other 7th Edition Stuff 5-15-2014
    Snap-Fire
    Taking a Jink save limits you to snap-firing next turn in all cases

    Skyfire restricts the bearer to only snapifire at non-flyers in all cases (full BS vs flyers).

    Allies
    All armies may ally with themselves as Battle Brothers, and Battle Brothers may freely embark into each other's transports.


    Flyers/FMCs
    Only zooming flyers do not score.

    Vector strike hits are now AP2.

    Grounding checks are now based on wounds inflicted.
    image via DakkaDakka: 5-20-2015
    The Discipline of Daemonology

    "Unless otherwise noted, all Psykers, other than those belonging in the Tyranids Faction (p.118) can generate powers from the Daemonology Discipline"

    Sanctic Powers

    "Psykers from Codex Grey Knights can manifest Sanctic powers as they would any other psychic power, but they cannot generate Malefic powers at all.

    All other Psykers that attempt to namifest Sanctic powers suffer Perils of the Warp (p.25) on a Psychic test that includes any double, whether the Psychic test was successful or not."

    Malefic Powers

    "Psykers wit the Daemon special rule can manifest Malefic powers as they would any other psychic power, but they cannot generate Sanctic powers at all.

    All other Psykers that attempt to namifest Malefic powers suffer Perils of the Warp (p.25) on a Psychic test that includes any double, whether the Psychic test was successful or not."

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    Gary's "12 year old kid with an attitude" says: 5-21-2015

    1-3 Crew Shaken: vehicle only firing snap shots like normal
    4 Crew Stunned: vehicle only firing snap shots and cannot move or pivot. Zooming flyers cannot turn and must move 18".
    5 Weapon Destroyed: as normal and if all weapons have run out of ammunition or or already destroyed count as immobilized
    6 Immobilized: Chariots count as Crew Stunned, Flyers 1-2 flyer crashes with Crash and Burn rule. 3+ it counts as crew stunned.An already immobilized vehicle suffering another immobilized result loses an additional hull point.

    7+Explodes: D6 radius for a Strenth 4 hit on nearby units. vehicle destroyed

    Crash and Burn: lg blast and scatters 2d6 for S6 hits.

    Wrecked vehicles are those that lose all their hull points. becomes scenery
    Gary's Perils of the Warp chart: 5-21-2014

    Perils of the Warp

    1. Dragged into the Warp: Psyker takes a leadership test, if passed suffers 1 wound or glancing hit no saves.if failed he is removed as a casualty and his unit takes d6 S6 AP1 hits. The hits come from the psyker for allocation
    2. Mental Purge: Psyker suffers 1 wound/glancing hit no saves. randomly select one power from the psyker. its lost for the rest of the game.
    3. Power Drain: Psyker suffers 1 wound/glancing hit no saves. if its the psychic phase, both players lose d3 warp charge points
    4. Psychic Backlash: Psyker suffers 1 wound/glancing hit no saves.
    5. Empyric Feedback: Psyker takes a leadership test. if failed Psyker suffers 1 wound/glancing hit no saves. If passed no effect.
    6. Warp Surge: Psyker takes a leadership test. if failed Psyker suffers 1 wound/glancing hit no saves. If passed psyker gains a 3+ invul, fleshbane, armour bane, and smash until the next friendly psychic phase.
    via 40KDaemons: 5-21-2014 (he's got more editorial info as well)

    Smash is indeed 1 attack only now. Ostensibly a Daemon Weapon would still boost that.

    You must change flight modes from swoop to glide and wait a turn before charging.

    You may ride in BB transports. Meaning you can still join their units.

    Hit and Run still transfers to the unit. This probably means all of the USR's that currently transfer still do, meaning all death stars still work.

    Allies of Convenience - pretty much unchanged.

    Desperate Allies - Unchanged (stuck on a 1), but I believe they can score now.

    Apocalypse - All the penalties for Convenience and Desperate, but you can't deploy within 12". Ostensibly, they would also score, so in the right combination, this is quite manageable and potent.

    Snapshots and Ignores Cover are unchanged. The -2 thing was wrong. Consolidating into combat was debunked a week ago if you hadn't heard.
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    And in other news, my rectal passage discovered to be an eyrie for a species of airborne simians previously unknown to science....

    Load of tosh!
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    so some ramdom bloke is saying gw is shifting from every 4 years to 2.... that makes me think is total BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobster-overlord View Post
    so some ramdom bloke is saying gw is shifting from every 4 years to 2.... that makes me think is total BS.
    Hardly some random bloke. If your going to comment at least be constructive. 40k radio has been very accurate so far and they're saying this is from the same source. Therefore it should get some consideration
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    Apparently the source is the one that has been leaking them the info on SM and their other highly reliable previous rumours......
    Or, since 40k Radio got a C&D from GW regarding those rumors, they are probably putting out BS to catch the leak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daboarder View Post
    40k Radio posted a rumour,

    40k 7th ed is slated for 2014 with fantasy 9th being scrapped for the time being. Apparently the source is the one that has been leaking them the info on SM and their other highly reliable previous rumours......
    Yeah, so um, yeah, this rumor sounds like total crapola. Seriously, I bought 6th Edition 18 months ago...
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    Let's just put a different context around this. Since the release of 6th codexes have been updated and new rules sets released at a far faster rate than ever before. Assuming that they continue at this rate nearly every codex will have been update by the end of 2014. Given that codexes and rule sets drive model sales what else can GW release at that point to drive model sales.

    So 2014 may be a little early for a new edition but early 2015 wouldn't surprise me.

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    Art the beginning of sixth edition I had been seeing that GW was said to want to make the editions last longer so I don't know what to think anymore.
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