Warhammer 40k 7th ed?

[ElectricPaladin]

Nah, it looks pretty easy, from what I gather (this is all from rumours, no confirmations yet

Some of this has been confirmed.

Generate dice pool. Spend dice to try and beat the score to cast: each Warp Charge needed means you need one 4+ roll. Spend as many dice from your pool as you like.

It has been confirmed that your dice pool = x + 1d6, where x is equal to the number of mastery levels on your side of the board.

Two sixes on any of the dice is Perils.

There's also a Deny the Witch (dispel pool) generated along the same lines, and apparently it'll be slightly more difficult to dispel than to cast (maybe need twice the successes?).

The most common rumor is that while you need 4+ for a die to succeed on the cast, you need a 6+ for the die to succeed on the counter, but mastery levels, wargear like psychic hoods, special rules like Adamantium Will, and having a psyker near the caster will all modify that number.

Doesn't look complicated at all, if that's accurate.

Agreed.

[hisdudeness]

The only way to dominate the Psychic phase is to go absolutely all out on your levels within your list.

And you know, if someone does that? Good luck to them. It's no different whatsoever than going all shooty or close combat. It's just another phase for us to explore.

I believe you are incorrect. If I don't spend points on psyker or psyker defense, most signs point to me having to roll an equal number of my opponents 4+ successes with my 6+ rolls on a lesser amount of dice...

So even someone taking a single psyker will dominate the phase against an opponent that takes none. At least before I had to only make a standard single 6+ to Deny. Your example of Shooting and Assault phases is as incorrect...a shooty army can counter and assault army with over watch. A Choppy army can counter a shooty army by over loading the gun line. I doubt I will be able to use my shooty or choopy units to counter psykic powers in the same way.

[ElectricPaladin]

I believe you are incorrect. If I don't spend points on psyker or psyker defense, most signs point to me having to roll an equal number of my opponents 4+ successes with my 6+ rolls on a lesser amount of dice...

So even someone taking a single psyker will dominate the phase against an opponent that takes none. At least before I had to only make a standard single 6+ to Deny. Your example of Shooting and Assault phases is as incorrect...a shooty army can counter and assault army with over watch. A Choppy army can counter a shooty army by over loading the gun line. I doubt I will be able to use my shooty or choopy units to counter psykic powers in the same way.

You still only need a single 6+ to Deny. Rumor has it that every 6+ you roll reduces their pool of successes. Unless they roll more successes than they need - unlikely in most cases - a single 6+ will still ruin your opponent's day.

[The Imperial Fist]

Dude you need help. Can you imagine the request to the tech marine "Yes can you adjust the grav harness for horse?"

Not just that, can you imagine it "so who's turn is it to clean the horse sh*t this time?"

[MajorWesJanson]

You still only need a single 6+ to Deny. Rumor has it that every 6+ you roll reduces their pool of successes. Unless they roll more successes than they need - unlikely in most cases - a single 6+ will still ruin your opponent's day.

Well, focused witchfires now work by getting More successes than you need to choose the target, so there are various reasons to roll for more than the bare minimum.

Also, nova powers affect all units, but only a single unit affected can choose to deny the witch. We really need more info on how deny works.

[The Imperial Fist]

Where the f*ck is the Space Marine Terminator Captain?!

If this does become another free model with £60 spend they won't release it for at least a week or two after 7th ed is out, to encourage large spending again after the initial rush for 7th has cooled down.

[Patrick Boyle]

If this does become another free model with £60 spend they won't release it for at least a week or two after 7th ed is out, to encourage large spending again after the initial rush for 7th has cooled down.

Well I'm just hoping whatever it's part of turns up before June 1st so I have something to order alongside my semi-secret second web exclusive captain to get free shipping.

[White Tiger88]

Well I'm just hoping whatever it's part of turns up before June 1st so I have something to order alongside my semi-secret second web exclusive captain to get free shipping.

I am more surprised people want these *limited* marine models......I personally find them static and lame looking. Also you have to buy stuff you don't generally need to get one...

[John Bower]

Well, focused witchfires now work by getting More successes than you need to choose the target, so there are various reasons to roll for more than the bare minimum.

Also, nova powers affect all units, but only a single unit affected can choose to deny the witch. We really need more info on how deny works.

We'll have it soon enough.... only a few days to wait

[Erik Setzer]

I believe you are incorrect. If I don't spend points on psyker or psyker defense, most signs point to me having to roll an equal number of my opponents 4+ successes with my 6+ rolls on a lesser amount of dice...

So even someone taking a single psyker will dominate the phase against an opponent that takes none. At least before I had to only make a standard single 6+ to Deny. Your example of Shooting and Assault phases is as incorrect...a shooty army can counter and assault army with over watch. A Choppy army can counter a shooty army by over loading the gun line. I doubt I will be able to use my shooty or choopy units to counter psykic powers in the same way.

You counter it EXACTLY the same way. If I have an Ork Slugga Boy swarm, it doesn't have that much to counter shooting, except, like you said, getting in there and hitting them in the face.

And you know how it counters psykers? Get in there and hit them in the face.

Psykers are basically like shooty units. It's not like you can roll some dice and say, "Ha, that unit's shooting attack doesn't happen this turn!"