Are the Mysterious Carcharodons Actually War Hounds Returning from Deep Space?

[OzDestro]

Hi there!
SO i've been working a lot on my War Hounds and it may be driving me loopy, but I have this theory that sees the War Hounds playing a part in the current era of the WH40k universe.

I wrote a much lengthier explanation [URL="http://www.ozdestro.com/3/post/2014/01/are-the-mysteriouscarcharodons-actually-war-hounds.html"]here[/URL], but I'd like to get your feedback.

- So the XIIth Legion, the War Hounds, were a legion split - 8,000 of them became the Bloody 13th and the rest were sent into space as (effectively) shock troops.
- When they were reunited with their Primarch the War Hounds became the World Eaters and went a bit rogue!
- The Horus Heresy happened (small thing - may have heard of it)
- Then, thousands of years later from deepest space comes the Carcharodons dressed in old armour types and Crusade-era ships.
- Their roots are mysterious and go back almost to the dawn of the Imperium.
- They do however have an affinity for the chainaxe/ chainsword and close combat to the point of relishing in the brutality - exactly what the War Hounds were sent away for!

So my theory is that these Chapters are one and the same.

Ladies and gentlemen - thanks for your time - would love your feedback on this idea...!


(BTW, Carcharodons is by far the most annoying Marine Chapter to write!)

[Psychosplodge]

Never subjected to the butchers nails, so never followed Angron's fall?

[OzDestro]

Never subjected to the butchers nails, so never followed Angron's fall?

Great point!
I was only thinking untainted - but yes - I hadn't factored the nails in.

[Psychosplodge]

There's been small examples of traitor legion members staying loyal, so it's entirely possible given the scales involved.
Plus if its your head cannon, short of actual contradictory cannon material why not?

[mikeramos]

U make an excellent point I always thought gw and FW hinted at chapters being part of the old legions I thought it was written some where that they even used gene seed of traitor legion for a founding of new chapters.
Minotaurs= iron warriors the whole siege warfare and maze like environment of their ship,
Blood ravens = thousand sons prospero burns, and Dow games and books

Red scorpions = emperors children the whole purity thing, just throwing it out their

[Psychosplodge]

Wasn't it suggested the cursed founding used non-ultramarine geneseed?

[mikeramos]

Yes even makes a reference on 40k wiki about a chapter that was as durable as the death guard legion

[OzDestro]

Wasn't it suggested the cursed founding used non-ultramarine geneseed?

The 23rd too...

[OzDestro]

That's really interesting! I didn't know about those others, though I'd heard rumours about the Blood Ravens but haven't read that book.

[Mr Mystery]

It's also now explicitly stated in the Space Marine Codex that Guilliman put a timed stasis lock on the 'traitor' Geneseed held on Terra from before the Heresy....

And that lock is now open.