WD stopping?

[Deadlift]

Have you read any mainstream magazines lately? White Dwarf is refreshingly free of ads in comparison.

Depends on your interpretation of what an advert is. If you take product placement into account, the whole thing is one big brochure. But of course people buy the magazine because they happen to like the product. White Dwarf or what ever it's called now only exists to do one thing. Support and promote games workshops models. Why would they produce it otherwise.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Depends on your interpretation of what an advert is. If you take product placement into account, the whole thing is one big brochure. But of course people buy the magazine because they happen to like the product. White Dwarf or what ever it's called now only exists to do one thing. Support and promote games workshops models. Why would they produce it otherwise.

Yep. 100% agree with that.

[Herzlos]

Have you read any mainstream magazines lately? White Dwarf is refreshingly free of ads in comparison.

The ads in the other magazines I've read recently have all been pretty honest about being ads whilst the magazine contained some editorial content. I just got the feeling with old WD that everything was an ad, either blatantly or thinly veiled as content.

For example: Jeremy Vetlocks article on why you should buy modular gaming hills. Or kitbash.

[eldargal]

True but I can't think of any magazine quite like WD to be honest. I mean of course it is basically a catalogue if you consider that it is aimed at people who buy GW products and contains nothing but GW products. But in terms of explicit 'buy the shinies' it's about a third which isn't bad. It also has a much larger pagecount and similar price to most niche magazines I'm familiar with and unlike said magazines and all mainstream magazines none of the cost to the publisher is subsided by outside advertising material.

Most other niche magazines I'm familiar with weigh in at around 70 pages, A5 format often (if full colour) and are around half ads to help subsidise the cost.

[odinsgrandson]

Because we remember the Fat Bloke glory days, or some people before that...

Some of us remember.

Back when there wasn't a battle report in every issue, and when there was, it was always Jervis losing to Andy Chambers. Or that one time they decided to publish a game between the tournament winners (internal and otherwise).

We remember when there were hobby articles that talked about creating terrain from cake toppers, Pringles Tins and stucko. We remember painting articles that Mike McVey wrote, n which he actually told us how the 'Eavy Metal team painted.

We remember back when they included full games in WD, and support for board games and RPGs that might have been produced under license. And full Campaigns for Warhammer, 40k and Space Hulk, Space Crusade, HeroQuest, and new missions and gangs for Necromunda.

And we remember that the first Codex Space Wolves was from WD (spanning several months), and that's how we had army lists for Necrons, Sisters of Battle and the Legion of the Damned (twice). And that the Army Book for Chaos Dwarves was a re-print of WD articles.

We might also remember that the update from 3rd to 4th ed 40k was published in WD- then Andy Chambers actually responded to the feedback that he got! We had a better edition of 40k because they put content into WD.


Honestly, I'd love to see things go back to those days. WD would be a great place for a Dark Heresy adventure, or some less than totally official supplement for Talisman or Chaos in the Old World, then some rules for less prominent Space Marine chapters (say, Relictors, Scythes of the Emperor, Lamentors, Black Dragons).

Sure- printing technology has improved, painting meta has improved and the photography and artwork has improved. The current magazine definitely looks better than the old one. But they used to not shy away from putting games and game variants into WD.

[John Bower]

Death From The Skies.
And they got slaughtered by the internet community for that.
Unjustly so, in my opinion.

That didn't come from WD, it came from the Crusade of Fire Campaign book. Flyers first appeared in WD, but not the DFtS rules. And really they could've done it all in WD to be honest. They hit us 20 quid for not a lot of substance really. I only bought it to have all my flyers in 1 place.

[John Bower]

See post below this one was a bit messed up

[John Bower]

Oh, visions I'm trying to be positiive about, because that has all the stuff worth bothering to read in. It's the £2.50 weekly one that worries/confuses/angers me.

Yeah but 7 quid? That's better spent on a model or some scenery (some of which can be purchased around tinterwebs for that or less) that won't end up in the paper bin a week later.

[Mr Mystery]

Or we can wait and see what the actual content is, before decrying the price.

[Psychosplodge]

But it wasn't worth £5.50 mystery, but it was bought out of habit. I genuinely can't imagine what they think will justify £7.50 as page count isn't enough...