Get on the same page and stop being Rats to the GW Piper (7e (6.1e))

[RexScarlet]

But now we're drowning in too much love - supplements for armies, Fortifications/Escalation giving you new possible units to add to your army, data-slates, faster codex production etc. So people complain even more.

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EXACTLY, well said, thanks!
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Complain is not necessarily the issue, it is the confusion multiplied exponentially.
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If I walk into a non GW game store and want to play, every player, and every store will give me a different issue (different type/level of game), what a waste of everyones time.
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It was much easier to get a game back in 3rd, as even with no interwebs, house rules and FaQs were mailed and faxed to each other from Maryland (GW prime territory) and most players, tournaments, and FLGS were on the same page.

[RexScarlet]

Your wikipedia link is still broken

Thank you; [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem[/url]

Wheat and chessboard problem

[Mr Mystery]

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EXACTLY, well said, thanks!
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Complain is not necessarily the issue, it is the confusion multiplied exponentially.
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If I walk into a non GW game store and want to play, every player, and every store will give me a different issue (different type/level of game), what a waste of everyones time.
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It was much easier to get a game back in 3rd, as even with no interwebs, house rules and FaQs were mailed and faxed to each other from Maryland (GW prime territory) and most players, tournaments, and FLGS were on the same page.

That's always been the way though.

Tournaments have their preferences. House rules anyone?

It's an integral part of the hobby.

Just relax about it. Even stuff that is official faces unofficial restrictions in some areas. And it's not GW doing it.

[jonsgot]

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Did the word Stop confuse you, sorry...
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Did make a stand either way confuse you as well, sorry...
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So, errr, what cool "new" models? I see more NEW "Rules" dropping than "new" models, but thanks for the useless response, it was very helpful to prove my point of the problems, thanx.

Nothing is useless.

I've read your post again and I think I understand what you want. You want a handful of event organisers to decide what should or should not happen. You just don't care what does or does not happen? You want the community to make a decision on what should or should not happen and then petition those who have the power to control it.

The current rate of book release is too fast for me, but I wouldn't want to go back to the 5e release rates.

Things will sort themselves out. The events that grow will be copied by those that don't. If they all grow it will be a miracle considering GW falling sales.

[Defenestratus]

The new release schedule is the greatest thing to ever happen to our hobby.

If for no other reason that its upset the apple cart of the WAAC crowd.

(But the real reason is because, as an Eldar player, I know that I'm not going to have to wait another 7 freakin years for new stuff)

[Psychosplodge]

Basicaly are you suggesting that every disgruntled player recruits two disgruntled players in some sort of boycott till they do things the way the disgruntled player wants?

The problem being no one can agree which particular aspect of the hobby they're disgruntled about?

[SaveModifier]

I am so confused, so, more rules coming out, faster than ever, with awesome models to back that up with more and more ways to play the game, is a bad thing? Maybe I'm not hobbying right then because I think its great

[Sly]

If I walk into a non GW game store and want to play, every player, and every store will give me a different issue (different type/level of game), what a waste of everyones time.

That's been the case for a long time.

Unless GW starts releasing FAQ more quickly (and better ones), this problem will persist, because as slow as GW is, it would still be faster than players somehow getting together, creating a world-wider set of FAQs (that may override GW's), and disseminating them.

You will have to stick to small-scale local agreements (otherwise known as house rules), because timely large scale ones will not happen.

[Defenestratus]

I have a feeling that people who are having a hard time absorbing and adapting to all the new rules, supplements, models, etc... are the same kind of people who thought that they HAD to always color in between the lines in their coloring books.

[Arkhan Land]

this is not the best mathematical concept to help illustrate GW problem.

a better analogy might be any irrational number, as GW tried to examine the problem in further detail, further detail emerges.

either way this is all not the greatest way to look at an issue who's complexity is perfectly encapsulated by itself, a situation we already understand.

To throw in my personal two cents, right now in the last few years the game itself (organization and players) have yeilded several ways to play: Friendly Games, Competetive Games, Killteam, Combat Patrol, Normal 40k, Apocalypse, Tournament Style Limitations, etc.
I think its really up to each and every gamer to figure out what they want to do.
Some people think that their local store should be a pathway to the way they want to play.
other people travel miles and miles and miles for tournaments.
There's people like me who throw down on home tables two or three times a week and go to the store once or twice a month.

With the internet present hopefully the only real limitation to your games is your own laziness and your willingness to compromise.