Cover saves for Fortifications.

[Harley]

Simple but beardy question. If Barricades are taken as an upgrade for a Firestorm Redoubt, and are placed in front of it, would they provide the Fortification with a cover save, having obscured it by 25%?

If so, and the Redoubt had a Void Shield upgrade, would the cover save extend to the armor 12 Void Shield as well?

[Angelofblades]

I believe this is answered in the 40k FAQ. No cover saves for fortifications.

[Harley]

I searched the FAQ for every instance of the words "Fortification", "Building" and "Cover" and didn't find anything related to this. :/

[Angelofblades]

I was pretty sure I had seen it before...I was recently looking at the FAQ too because I had a question about blessings and arriving from reserves and found my answer there. For some reason I was thinking I had seen it there.

[Tynskel]

Fortifications may receive cover saves as long as all the related rules for cover saves are followed.

Those are some pretty large barricades, and I wouldn't be surprised that an opponent might be someone annoyed.

[Nabterayl]

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with this.

[John Bower]

If you're following the correct scale for the barricades then no, they won't obscure 25% of the Firestorm anyhow. They're only around half the height of a normal figure. Nowhere near enough to cover 25% of a Firestorm.

[Harley]

If you're following the correct scale for the barricades then no, they won't obscure 25% of the Firestorm anyhow. They're only around half the height of a normal figure. Nowhere near enough to cover 25% of a Firestorm.

I thought the Aegis defense line was the closest thing GW made to imperial style barricades?

[Harley]

Had this recently come up at a game, so I am still wondering about this. The BRB says "Units may shoot at or charge an occupied building just as if it was a vehicle" Despite this, someone claimed that a Fortification isn't expressly a "vehicle" and since the rules of the game are permissive, no where in the BRB did it say that Fortifications would be granted cover saves from intervening models (5+), Nightfight (Stealth) etc.

But by that logic, couldn't one also claim that Melta/Fusion weapons do not work against Fortifications since Melta only expressly "when rolling to penetrate a vehicle's Armour..."

[Nabterayl]

Fortifications in general aren't vehicles; your friend is right about that. But I would not accept that a building being a vehicle for shooting purposes means it doesn't benefit from cover saves. Determining what sort of save a model is entitled to is part of resolving a shooting attack against it.