Imperial Knights Detachment and allies taken by the primary detachment conumdrum

[Tynskel]

of course you don't,

But that reads more like you just expect armies to have double standards.

there is no relationship between INQ and Knights, by your logic then they cannot be in the same army either

to the OP:

What all this should tell you is that no body really knows, its a mess. ask TO's and go with what your regular mates say

its not a mess. It is 2nd Edition. ANYTHING GOES!

[Tynskel]

Go double posting!!!

of course you don't,

But that reads more like you just expect armies to have double standards.

there is no relationship between INQ and Knights, by your logic then they cannot be in the same army either

to the OP:

What all this should tell you is that no body really knows, its a mess. ask TO's and go with what your regular mates say

its not a mess. It is 2nd Edition. ANYTHING GOES!

[John Bower]

That does seem to muddy the waters on how to treat Armies with more than 2 detachments.

But while Knights + Inquisition is ambiguous for that reason, I don't think that IG + Chaos + Knights is ambiguous at all.

Come the Apocalypse -- "this kind of alliance cannot occur" is pretty clear.

No matter how many detachments you have in an army they each have some sort of relationship to each other. It is nonsense to claim that 2 of the detachments in a single army are "not allied." When the relationship between two factions in the same army spells out clearly that it "cannot occur," that is pretty clear.

But then when you read Apocalypse... It CAN occur. Hell in Apoc even nids can ally with anyone. I don't have a problem with any allies, I think people take the allies rules far to strictly, even in the BRB GW state that you can still use Come the Apocalypse allies with your opponent's agreement, just come up with a suitable reason for the alliance. I think Traitor Knights is more than just a 'suitable' reason for it, it's downright narrative.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I just hope GW make a special updated Chaos Knight miniature (with Chaos Symbols on it), EBook Codex, or release something like Hell Knights, and other Fallen Slaanesh Knight Titans to allow heretics and anti-Imperial generals like myself to field something other than the expensive 888 point Super heavy tank with a Chaos warrior on the front, that is not worth the points it costs.

Funnily enough, notice that anything Imperial isn't actually sculpted onto the model.

[Tynskel]

Funnily enough, notice that anything Imperial isn't actually sculpted onto the model.

Because Knights are not Knights of the Imperium.

[John Bower]

Because Knights are not Knights of the Imperium.

Erm, technicalleeee they are. Imperial Knights, it's in the title....