A store in Erie , PA has started to allow 30k in tournies. I've used my world eaters twice now. The list has a hard time with flyers. I haven't been able to get a 30k flyer yet and the missile squad is too many points. As mentioned 20 man squads(with apothecary) is pretty good. scoring terminators is bad *** too. just gotta finish painting my Spartan. Kharn and 20 marines, here I come!