GW does listen to there customers... just not the stupid people who know nothing about running a company and complain about how they think the price should be lowered. do you recall the exsalted flamer that could not be a model with out its chariot? they made a white dwarf book to correct it and give its own statline to be played as a model with out it chariot this was to try and fix the issue that if the chariot moved it could not fire other then snapshots with its blue flames.
GW is run by humans after all people need to stop demanding they do things and request changeis with some exsample to why you feel its unblanced and not the generic "this is broken FIX IT !!"
Those who judge without reason are no better then the things they judge.
Sorry but if you dont see why summoning 2k points of deamons over the course of a game is broken you probably dont deserve to be called a "game designer"
Here's a business lesson for you: If you produce a poor quality product, charge a premium for it, and have terrible customer relations, you're doing something wrong.GW is run by humans after all people need to stop demanding they do things and request changeis with some exsample to why you feel its unblanced and not the generic "this is broken FIX IT !!"
GW's models are good, but their books are terrible, and for a lot of people 40k is a package deal. It's nice that there are a good number of collectors out there, but there are too many people who actually care about playing the game for GW to be able to afford to lose them. And since this is a package deal, it doesn't matter how good the models are if the rules are terrible. It would be like buying a really nice looking car without a functional engine.
I am the Hammer. I am the right hand of my Emperor. I am the tip of His spear, I am the gauntlet about His fist. I am the woes of daemonkind. I am the Hammer.
Case in point. Pyrovore looks awesome. Good luck getting people to buy more than one
Morbid Angels:http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?7100-Morbid-angel-WIP
I probably come across as a bit of an ***, don't worry I just cannot abide stupid.
I respect your opinion but could you please stop repeating the main GW sorry argument used to explain their complete lack of interest into making this game as balanced as possible?
40k is no chess so what? are you getting paid for repeating such ludicrous idea as 40K can't be balanced? or are you just repeating what you heard here and there coming from people who do NOT want this game to have better rules?
This is completely non sensical.
They don't WANT to invest money into balancing things. Period.
Broken units allow them to sell. That is all.
and this is NOT acceptable.
If you accept the unforgivable poor quality of GW playtesting (if there's any) , it's your choice but please do not complain about those who are legitimate to complain about it as customers.
There should be a place for all, be they casual or competitive or fluffy players.
Ok now your making odd sense you said there models are good but you say they produce poor quality product... That just conflicts itself GW staff make both models and rule books so I am going to refraze what you said you love the staff who sculpt the miniature but you hate the staff who make the books did you know the rules develop have to have a sense of realism to them because after all warhammer 40k is based on what if real life turned out like this in the 40k.
Give me a rule that you feel objected as broken and I will come up with a way to beat it add the army you use and what you went against.
Do you know why people hate some of the rules in the game? It force's them to use there brain and beat a challenge I will give you a prime example of a player who plays the same army as me in my local GW shop.
He plays nurgle daemons he losses a majority of the time because he does not want to deep strike due to the risk and said using icons is silly because if the unit dies you loose the icon. He also said GW was stupid to give all nurgle daemons slow and purposeful and shrouded.
Now to me nurgle units are slow because there decaying and mostly resemble a shambling zombie that makes sense to me and I accept that rule.
Shrouded is because of the fly's buzzing around them also the smell could be obstructing the aim of say a guardsmen with coughing and vomiting.
I have won almost every game other then facing tau damn gunlines but that's how they play and I have beaten them some times because of getting a model deep strike about 5" away from them in ruins and scaring them off the board next turn with nurglings .
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Those who judge without reason are no better then the things they judge.
GW is by their own admission both a model making and game design company. darklink is refering to the quality of the "game design" products
Morbid Angels:http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?7100-Morbid-angel-WIP
I probably come across as a bit of an ***, don't worry I just cannot abide stupid.
Wickedgood the OP finished his 'constructive criticism' by stating he hopes the share price falls low enough to get people fired. Hang on - not only does he want people to lose jobs, but he wants the company that produces a product he has elected to no longer use, but that I and hundreds of thousands of others still do, to be damaged?
And you think his histrionic BS doesn't merit some condescension?
Well I hope Wickedgood is kind enough to post the links to the ebays of his armies as he rage quits, and I hope he doesn't let the door hit him on the arse on the way out.
I'M RATHER DEFINATELY SURE FEMALE SPACE MARINES DEFINERTLEY DON'T EXIST.
Then tell me what is balanced in your eyes? Because clearly you seem to have a very high understanding to what balance is yet you give no example or reason to how you state it.
Example of balance on a very basic level take away every rule and replace it with 3 rules rock paper scissors there you go a balance of a game where each player can win or loose because they are completely equal. Now take warhammer 40k we have a total of 17 army's each with there own rules and play styles and you tell me how you can balance said game this is just as bad as the wow forums when people cry because there warrior could not solo 2 druids and demand the druids to be nurfed because there the god of balance.
Non sensical or just you don't want to hear the truth of what you are hearing.
This is how you see it as NOT acceptable you don't speak for the hole community sorry.
I am assuming you are comparing a video game to a game done in reality video games can be play tested by millions of people because its online and available to everyone sometimes free of cost due to free to play so the data is easy to be accumulative in real time to give a more higher scale of how the game could be balanced. But for a game like warhammer GW can only get a very small and limit amount of data due to they don't have access to every play done by people all around the world who play warhammer the only information is via youtube battle reports and real life play in close area to where they are doing research on the balance of the game.
Casual and competitive can never be one and the same Casuals are people who don't have a huge amount of time so they have very little understanding to say someone who is a competitive player who will understand most of the statistics of the game to the point they could destroy a casual player because of the knowledge they have the stuff they learned and the tricks to not brake but find loopholes in the rules.
I hope this information helps.
Those who judge without reason are no better then the things they judge.