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    Default Dark Eldar Rumor Roundup

    Older Rumors:
    Codex Dark Eldar: Q4 2014, Near the very end of the year.
    via Father Gabe 6-29-2014
    Looked at update on next months releases. Dark Eldar are likely coming. Codex, limited edition codex, supplement, dataslates. Voidraven bomber @ $81.00 and new Incubi @ 29.75 which likely means plastic incubi.

    Supply system updated, whether that means next month or not, Im not sure. It would make sense, since Orks are bleeding over into July release. To help support that info, no changes in supply system for Bretonians.
    via StraightSilver 6-30-2014
    I am pretty sure Dark Eldar won't be next month (August).

    ...I was under the impression they were going to be the pre-Christmas October release (to tie in with hallowe'en again).

    I had heard the Void Raven was going to be their big release, literally as apparently it is a pretty big kit, so September/October sounds right as this is the start of the Retail Xmas period and would more than likely go on Xmas lists?
    via Steve the Warboss 8-27-2014
    The Dark Eldar comes soon after the last Nagash Endtimes release in mid September.

    - 3 Week Release Window
    - No completely new Units or Characters
    - Chars without Models are removed
    - Separate Relics for the Wych cults & the Kabals
    - Vect is a Lord of War
    - Wracks are the only finecasts who get a replacement
    - New warmachine for Vect
    via one of Gary's birds 8-29-2014

    Dark Eldar Products
    A reduced price Incubi box(which is drastic, it seems, becoming cheaper than Wracks are now).

    Two items named "Dark Eldar: Covens" and "Dark Eldar: Wyches" for the same price as a 7th Ed Codex. Now I can't say with much certainty what these are, but based on their price and title, I think they might be supplements.

    In addition to that, I have seen the normal 7th Ed priced 'Codex: Dark Eldar" and the "Codex: Dark Eldar Limited Edition" that is a bit cheaper than others.

    Also of interest is the "Dark Eldar Tantalus" that I found that is four dollars cheaper than three Terminator boxes. If this Tantalus entry pans out, I would assume it is our version of the Imperial Knight/Baneblade/Stompa.
    via VoiceoftheChaosGods 9-4-2014

    Dark Eldar are next, 3-week releases with:

    -No Bomber in the Codex
    -New Female Archon Model (maybe Malys)
    -New Drazhar model
    -New Wracks
    -Vect with big Vehicle (no Chariot)
    Via Steve the Warboss 9-10-2014

    -Void Dragon is in the Dark Eldar Codex
    -Incubis will be repacked but remain finecast
    yet mooe datapoints for your trendlines...

    via one of gary's birds 9-13-2014
    There is a new Homonculous and new wracks

    The Haemonculi has long hair which falls on his left and he looks more of an Archon with the body of a Haemonculous. Perhaps a new Ancient Haemonculous model. While the body and cloak look similar, there are differences, and the curved blade is in its right hand, with the splinter pistol in its left. There is a talon of sorts, that looks like a raptors talon, on a lower right appendage.
    via the voices on the wind 9-14-2014
    Look for two main weeks of Dark Eldar Releases followed by a possible trailing third week to clean up the odds and ends and possible be shared with the start of the End Times Chaos launch window:

    Week 1: Haemonculi / Wracks (Sept 20th pre-orders)

    Week 2: Voidraven / Vect-dias / possible 3rd unknown mini (Sept 27th pre-orders)

    Plus these mixed in:
    -Codex (plus limited edition)
    -Supplemental codex ("Wyches"?)
    -Painting Guide ("Covens"?)
    -Cards
    via MyWargame & La Taberna de Laurana 9-14-2014
    New Haemonculi and Wracks confirmed:
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    via barjed on Warseer 9-15-2014

    Okay, I have the new WD with me.

    Wracks get a new ranged weapon called Ossefactor.

    "Each Wrack has access to (...) hooked blades and studded claws, (...) power mauls, (...), to (...)hex rifles, liquifiers and ossefactors". Power weapons for Wracks! Acothyst can take ECW, Scissorhand, Mindphase Gauntlet.

    5 Wracks in a box, 29 eur. 11 different heads inside. Its not a dual kit.

    This one is interesting. There are bits in the box that allow you to replace the crew of Raiders and Venoms for Wrack pilots and gunners!

    Plastic Wracks look almost indentical to the Finecast ones.

    New Haemy is 20 eur, looks like a cross between Urien (he has a syringe) and the old Haemy.

    No codex yet.

    Next week "it came from the void".

    edit: here you go http://imgur.com/18cHzt6

    ...The it's worded in WD, I think it's ECW, Mindphase and Xhand for Acothyst, while the rest of the gear applies to regular Wracks (It explicitly states that every Wrack can equip a Power Maul)
    via Grot Orderly 9-16-2014
    via La Taberna De Laurana and waaaghgaming.de 9-20-2014
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    via Talk Wargaming and Descanso Del Escriba 8-22-2014
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    via Warseer's Felwether: 9-22-2014
    Dark Eldar week 2 releases:

    Codex & Datacards

    Voidraven Bomber €62

    Kabalite Skysplinter (combo box) €45

    Wych Cult Swiftshard (combo box) €45

    Painting Guide

    Rebirth (novel)
    via Grot Orderly 9-22-2014

    Dark Eldar Codex
    30 pounds / 39 euros / 49.50 USD

    Dracon Edition (Limited Edition: 1000)
    - Codex Dark Eldar
    - Raiders of Commoragh
    - 6 objective markers
    - folio containing units datacards
    - hardback slipcase
    110 pounds / 145 euros / 180 USD

    Archon Edition (Limited Edition: 500)
    - Codex Dark Eldar
    - Raiders of Commoragh
    - Haemonculus Covens supplement
    - 6 objective markers
    - folio containing units datacards
    - hardback slipcase
    150 pounds / 200 euros / 250 USD

    Voidraven Bomber
    48 pounds / 62 euros / 80 USD

    Wych Cult Swiftshard
    10 Dark Eldar Wyches & Hekatrix plus Raider
    35 pounds / 45 euros / 60 USD

    Kabalite Skysplinter
    10 kabalite Warriors (op. Sybarite) plus Raider
    35 pounds / 45 euros / 60 USD

    Data Cards
    5 pounds / 6.50 euros / 8 USD

    Raiders of Commoragh
    20 pounds / 26 euros / 33 USD
    Last edited by Bigred; 09-22-2014 at 02:00 PM.
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    Dark Eldar Rumor Roundup - Continued

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    via Khaine Mor of The Darkcity 9-25-2014


    Dark Eldar Week 3 Releases
    Week 3, Pre order on the 4th : (October)

    -Plastic Archon, multiple options from what I've seen so far, I've seen a lot of bitz I've never seen before on any other kit. I know kabalites or wyches won't be updated, meaning those bitz can only come with the archon.

    -New Succubus, if you check the picture you can see a succubus with the same weapons as the old one, the same arms, but everything else is different. Now plastic or finecast, unsure. This could also be a conversion, however I know for a fact a new Succubus will be released.

    - Vect + Dais, third big release: you can get very excited for this one:
    0 pictures yet, 0 clue what it will look like, I'm expecting something extremely awesome. Vect is a lord of war btw.

    BTW another interesting bit on apoc battle report: all dark eldar get FnP on turn 3, fearless on turn 5. A global power from pain it seems...
    via 40Kings 9-26-2014

    via Google Translate (from German, you will note some odd turn of phrases):
    Gentlemen, this time there is really a premature birth. Rumor has it that quite a few people outside the HQs in Nottingham there that have the Codex Dark Eldar are on your desk. It's also said that this people want to present even a few interesting facts about the new Codex ... Below you will find a first estimate, based on rumors (!), Which are to me so came from here and there to ears.

    Style of the Codex:

    In principle, such as the new Grey Knights - no new units, loss of some known units for which there are no models, few new rules and basically a rehash of known with a few small changes here and there. Is that bad? No, not necessarily. DE Codex has always been moody and also the last issue had some charm. She was just not very strong game ... Is the new Codex game strong? I would say after the current rumors Location (!): Yes and no. A few gimmicks fall directly into the eye, but there is still no unity that could secure some form of stability or field presence. It remains questionable whether new gimmicks can make the really fat frying in the fire storm of colossi and Serpents ... But I've written anything yet!

    Army-wide special rules:

    Rumor had it already in the shady corners of the dark city. Power from Pain is a "vast army" become special rules, benefits from each model, that this special rule explicitly leads in profile - so all "normal" Dark Eldar units, Beast, Talos, etc. still do not. The special rule gives, depending on the running play special general rules on the quality FNP, Furious Charge, Rage, Fearless, etc. There may well be something out of it ... if not the support of these special rules would not necessarily be the most formidable representatives of the Codex. Some items or skills give bonuses to the number of moves, so that effects of turn 3, for example, already can enter turn 2.

    The Warlord table is very unspectacular. Fear, Hatred here and there, a bit of skill in battle or even a Reroll ... yawn. The funny thing is the "Combat Drug" table to the benefit of all models with Combat Drugs (surprise ...). All effects are central and even throwing dice for all units. The implications are kept very strictly: each one specific profile value is improved by one point.

    Changes in the selections:

    Some units will be sorely missed in the new Codex, some other losses will be hardly noticed. This radical cuts are really already been made:

    Vect is not in the Codex - it will certainly be a supplement released
    The Baron is not in the Codex - he will certainly NOT be a supplement released
    The poison-Duke is not in the Codex
    Remain at known BCMs: Drazhar (fairly static), Lelith (as) and Urien (as well)
    Otherwise, the selections are pretty much identical to the previous Codex


    Changes in the units themselves:

    The main change in the units over the last infusion is probably that the Beast Pack now more than 12 models (of whatever type) must include and the chimeras are simply too "demons" become so only a 5 + ward save can call their own. The flocks of birds have only 3 LP, the Clawed Fiend has for a rich profile for moderate point cost (but no protection mechanism). Funny is also that Tali and Croni (gnihihi) can be used in units of 1-3 and now have generic FNP. Not bad at all.

    In addition, now all vehicles automatically "shock troops" are.

    New equipment and weapons:

    Again: Something New, but a few interesting ideas. The relics of the Dark Eldar are located in the middle of the power scale. A few inconveniences for enemy psyker, a couple of problems for opponents with low morale (unless they are Space Marines ... na thank you) and a few weapons and armor. Nothing exceptional. 35 For there is but the new Webway portal for the Succubus or the Haemonculus that the carrier and its unit (!) Gives shock troops and no deviation in Schocken. This can some games. I have quite a few nasty combinations with this tool occurred.

    Also in the vehicle equipment, there are tried and true: Moral reroll, twin-linked Splinter weapons of passengers, etc. But also exciting things such as "Stealth" for vehicles. A 5 + ward save Venom continues to have on board.

    New weapons are rare. Some special equipment à la Helfrost gun that is singular to have on a platform, has crept in, for example, a 5.5 storm 2 24 inch small template for the Talos. The rocket bomber (which is unfortunately completely overpriced) have changed something and otherwise we still saw the expected change in the Splinter Canon to a 4.6 weapon salvos. Here and there there are new melee weapons with irrelevant properties, also a few other minor modifications of existing equipment were made - the Shredder has now ... Warning ... shred! Good choice!

    Conclusion:

    Based on the current situation rumors my first impression is bad, a lot of potential wasted. But: At least there's one or the other unit and combination, a small renaissance of the Dark Eldar will mean possibly that is set by the pure available goes from BCM. Unfortunately, the Codex is the currently chosen path away pretty consistently. Much is simplified and adapted a few general special rules is available as a spare. Thankfully, the old Codex quite interesting ... Now it's up to us to find the tournament players, the path in the network of a thousand gates, which will lead to a competitive Dark Eldar army. Quite simply, the be sure not to find. But excluded it is not safe.
    via warseer's barjed 9-27-2014

    - Huskblades are ap3, cheaper, not a relic
    - Racks now work on all Splinter weapons
    - Wych weapons nerfed. Hydras confer Shred, Razors reroll To Hit, Shardnet/Impaler reroll 1s on To Hit and To Wound
    - Stun Claw is +1S, ap6, confers ID in challenge
    - Shadow Field is more expensive
    - Incubi are still ap2
    - Torment Gren. Launchers can now be fired, 24", blast, s1, unit hit tests Ld, takes a wound for each point it failed, no armor or cover saves, doesnt work against ATSKNF*
    - Night Shield confers Stealth
    - Hex Rifle inflicts ID on Precision Hits*
    - Soul Trap gives +1s for each usnaved wound inflicted in a challenge
    - Reavers no longer attack while moving, now bladevanes are improved HoW. Caltrops inflict D6 rending HoWs, Gravs inflict Concussive
    - Spirit Probe now improves FnP of all Deldar in 6" by 1 to a max od 4+
    - Phantasm works like TGL, shorter range
    - Ossefactor is assault 1, fleshbane, ap2. If something is killed then the victims unit get d6 hits with s equal to t of the victim, ap-, ignores cover
    - Liquifier is now s3*
    - Implosion Msls are s6 ap2 blast
    - Chain Flails now only give Shred
    - Talos has 3 attacks, same as Cronos
    - Borh Haemy and Archon improve PfP, they let a unit add a 1 to the turn number for PrP, this stacks
    - Warlord traits are ultra****ty, one gives the warlord +1 ws...
    - Artefacts look average too, there is the old Djinn blade which works almost the same, a helmet that gives adamantium will in 12" and perils on any double, a terrible pistol, an ghostplate that gives -2 Ld in 6" and Fear, also one of the items does not work against atsknf. There is also Animus Vitae which is a one use, assault 1, s4 ap2, 8" that if a unsaved wound is inflicted lets all Deldar add 1 to the turn number for PfP effects until the end of the game
    - it says that Dodge now works against any wounds inflicted in fight sub phase, I am nit sure if overwatch counts or not
    - bomber is 10 av on all sides
    - it looks like Venom Blade can only be taken by the Acothyst now*
    - no flickerfields for anything other than venoms
    - sails let a vehicle flat out 24"
    - lances on infantry are a bit cheaper
    collated by nonafel (frontpage comments) 9-28-2014

    >Wyches invulnerable saves says it works against all wounds in the Fight Sub Phase.
    >Combat Drugs work very much the same as before with no FNP option. They are still random and give a +1 to attacks, strength, initiative, toughness, weapon skill, or leadership.

    >Warlord Traits

    Dark Eldar within 12" have Fear
    Can re-roll the dice for seize the initiative, for night fight, and reserves
    Warlord gets Rage
    Warlord gets Hatred
    Warlord gets +1WS
    Dark Eldar within 12" have Fearless

    >Court of the Archon is now 1-12 models chosen in any combination from the four types (So can have 12 Sslyths if you want etc, this same exact method is applied to the Beastmasters where you now dont even need to take Beastmasters if you wanted to), Lhamean 10pts, Ur-ghul 15pts, Medusae 25pts and Sslyth 25pts, can take a Venom or Raider. Stats wise they look the same as before, some equipment changed though. The Lhamean now has a Shaimeshi blade, 2+ Poison with a to wound roll of 6 causing instant death (there's quite a few weapons with this rule). The Medusae's Eyeburst changed to a S4 AP3 Template.

    >Hellions are fast attack, no way to change, same for Wracks (Elites) the only two squads that change their role are the Kabalite Warriors when they upgrade (3pts per model) to Trueborn and the Wyches upgrading to Bloodbrides (3pts per model), they both are then considered Elites.

    >The Succubus has a new weapon exclusive to her, the Archite Glaive which can be used one or two handed, One handed is S: User AP3 melee while the other is +1S, AP2 and two handed.

    >Dark Scythes are 24" S8 AP2 Heavy 1, Blast, Lance

    >Raiders and Venoms are both 55 points base.

    >Archons, Succubi, and Haemonculii can all take a Webway Portal for 35pts.

    >Raiders, Venoms and Ravagers now have Deep Strike

    >Wyches can take three special melee weapons if the unit is at least 10 models.

    >Lelith and Drazhar have Rampage.

    >No Lord of War, no Vect

    >Real Space Raider Detachment: 1 HQ 2 Troops 1 Fast Attack are compulsory, but you can take up to 6 Fast Attack in one detachment.

    >Gives a cover save of a 5+ to Troops in the first round and any round with Nightfight. Non-troops get a 6+

    >Razorwing Jetfighter is now Fast Attack

    >New Voidraven bomb is S9 AP2 Lance Large blast

    >Webway Portal is an item that gives the carrier and unit Deep Strike without scatter.

    >Talos/Cronos in units of 1-3, T7 3W points near a Wraithlord. Both have FNP. Talos has a new weapon option, 24" S5 AP2 Small blast.

    >Cronos is cheaper, has AP3 and buffs for friendly units

    >Beast packs have changed - minimum 12 models (of whatever type); Chimeras have the Daemon special rule. Razorwing Flocks only have 3A. Clawed Fiend is cheaper.

    >Splinter Cannon is, 4/6 Salvo. Shredder does not have Mono-filament, but does have Shred.

    >As for the Mandrakes, they lost the 5++, but got Shrouded and Stealth. They also start automatically with Baleblast and the only change to it is instead of pinning it has got Soul Blaze.

    >Clonefield is a 4++ save. Shadow field the same as before.

    >Power from Pain gives a set bonus depending upon what round it is, with no other requirements. The bonuses stack, so by the end of the game, your units really have a lot of bonuses.

    >1. None,
    >2. FNP 6+
    >3. FNP 5+
    >4. Furious Charge
    >5. Fearless
    >6. Rage

    >Someone has a Power Lance (I can see it's profile in the summary) in the codex, but I have no specific unit pages so unsure. However, the most logical choice are Scourges, who have a polearm model option for the Solarite

    >Cronos weapons stayed the same, they lost their additional support effects though, because Cronos now has a passive aura around itself (described in my prev. post). This is my conjecture but I think Talos and Cronos can be mixed in the same unit for a nice effect of 2 Taloi and a Cronos, with 4+ FnP on all of them

    >Baleblast now indeed has Soul Blaze instead of Pinning. Mandrakes also lost their 5++, which means the leak about them having Stealth and Shrouded instead is almost certainly true

    >I correct myself - Archon only boosts Power from Pain turn number when fielded in the new Dark Eldar detachment which also grants 5+ cover save for Troops and 6+ cover save for everything else on the first turn

    >Shock Prow now gives AV14 when ramming

    >Chain Snares now let a vehicle Tank Shock but not Ram

    >Splinter Cannons are Salvo 4/6 and got more expensive

    >Someone in the codex has a Crucible of Malediction (most likely Haemonculi) - once per game, all Psyker units (Brotherhoods included) within 3D6" suffer a S6 hit with no saves of any kind allowed

    >Artefacts:

    Animus Vitae - already described this in my other post

    Archangel of Pain - once per game, all units within 9" test LD with a -2 penalty, then take a wound with no cover/armor saves for each point they failed. Doesn't work against units with ATSKNF

    Armor of Misery - a Ghostplate with Fear and -2 LD penalty to all enemy units within 6"

    Djin Blade - AP3, +2 Attacks, after all attacks roll D6, on 1 the bearer suffers a wound with no saves

    Helm of Spite - Adamantium Will for all friendly units within 12", Psykers within 12" suffer Perils on any double.

    Parasite's Kiss - Pistol, Poison 2+, Master-crafted, after inflicting an unsaved wound, the bearer restores a single wound.

    >I am now almost sure that Venom Blade can be taken on the Acothyst only. There are two different weapons table for Coven and non-Coven units. Coven units get VB, ECW, Scissorhand, Flesh Gauntlet, Mindphase, and Agoniser. Out of these, VB and ECW can only be taken on the Acothyst. Non-Coven units get Power Sword (no option for other types) and Agoniser, that's it. So I Imagine the old VBs of all the kits will now be Power Swords. Also, Haemonculi can no longer take Power Weapons (unless it's specified directly in his profile, I haven't seen it)

    >Agoniser is now Poison 4+, still AP3, same cost

    >Scissorhand is Poison 4+, Rending

    >ECW is Poison 5+ (sic), AP3, Concussive and is also the most expensive of all Coven weapons

    >Flesh Gauntlet is Poison 4+, ID on a to hit roll of 6

    >PGL does NOT confer grenades anymore - I have not seen the Incubi profile page, so cannot say if they've gained grenades or not

    >Both PGL and TGL do not work against ATSKNF

    >Monoscythe, Shatterfield and Necrotoxin missiles haven't changed

    >There are no new ranged weapons other than Ossefactor and Dark Scythe (24", S8, AP2, blast, only on Voidraven Bomber), that info about AP2 blast for Talos also seems incorrect, I think someone confused Stinger Pod for it (which hasn't changed)

    >Reaver save is still 5+, all HoW attacks are Rending, base is 1 S4 hit, Caltrops D6 S6, Grav is 1 S4 Concussive

    >Significant stat changes for Beasts: Khymeras are now S4 and T4 (majority T4 for a Khymera pack!), Rzorwing Flocks are now WS2, A4, W3, Clawed Fiend is now WS3, W3
    via Grot Orderly 9-29-2014

    Dark Eldar Week 3 Prices
    Little bird has passed the following info.
    There will be no pics, even though I received some, since GW does not want me to *their stuff, before the release date... oh well.

    Eldar Archon model
    £14, €18, USD23, AU25 // 70zł

    Eldar Succubus model
    £14, €18, USD23, AU25 // 70zł

    Haemonculus Covens - Codex Supplement
    £30, €39, USD50, AU60 // 150zł
    collated by Charon 10-1-2014

    Compilation from various sources:

    HQ
    Haywire grenades only for characters

    -No vect
    -Archon armour 5+, no ap2 board or bike, only boosts PfP turn number when fielded in the new DE detachment which also grants 5+ cover save for Troops and 6+ cover save for everything else on the first turn but only if Night Fight
    -Succubus has option of AP2 weapon
    -Hemie: 70, +1 to the pfp turn if there is a heamie in the unit.
    -Drahzar: 190, EW, Rampage, +1A for every 6 to wound, Incubi get +1 WS if Drahzar is in the unit.
    -Lilith: 150, Rampage, No armour saves agaist her close combat attacks, rerolls to hit and to wound in close combat
    -Court: Llamean 10, Ur ghul 15, Medusae 25, Sslyth 25


    Units
    Haywire grenades only for characters

    - Harlequins are gone from the codex

    -Scourges: 16 points each, 4 weapons allowed

    -Incubi: 20 points, ap 2 init order, no grenades no upgrade powers

    -Reavers: 16 points each, can leave combat, save is still 5+, no longer attack while moving, now bladevanes are improved HoW. all HoW attacks are Rending, base is 1 S4 hit, Caltrops D6 S6, Grav is 1 S4 Concussive.

    -Witches: 10 points. NO haywires.

    -Kabalites: 8 points

    -Talos: 120, units of 1-3, fnp stock no pfp. 3 attacks. Chain flails only give shred.

    -Cronos: 100, units of 1-3, Spirit Probe now improves FnP of all Dark eldar in 6" by 1 to a max od 4+

    -Mandrakes: 12, lost 5++ baleblast s4 ap4 18” assault 2 soulblaze

    -Hellions: 13, no grenades

    - Beasts: Khymeras S4/T4, Flocks WS2 A4 W3, Fiend WS3, W3. Max size of 12.

    -Trueborn 1 pt cheaper, min size 5 no carbines. NO haywires.

    -Wracks elite no improvement, 1 special/5 models
    grots 35/model, FnP

    - Bomber is 160 points + cost of missiles

    - Ravager more expensive lost aerial assault. Raiders and Ravagers come with dissis. Dark lances + 5 points

    -Venom almost same cost, cannot take +1 stealth

    -Razorwing fast attack, 130 with dissis, +10 for dark lances, void mine is 5” blast

    -NO lord of war


    Combat drugs
    1: +1A
    2: +1S
    3: +1I
    4: +1T
    5:+1 WS
    6: +1Ld

    Power from Pain
    Turn 1:Nothing
    Turn 2: FnP 6+
    Turn 3: FnP
    Turn 4: Fnp, Furious Charge
    Turn 5: Turn 4 + Fearless
    Turn 6+: Turn 5 + Rage
    (+1 to turn if haemon in the unit)


    Weapons:
    - Huskblade ap3, cheaper, not a relic

    - Hex Rifle inflicts ID on Precision Hits got cheaper

    - Soul Trap gives +1s for each usnaved wound inflicted in a challenge

    - Phantasm GL works like TGL, shorter range. Doesn’t work on ATSKNF

    - Ossefactor is assault 1, fleshbane, ap2. If something is killed then the victims unit get d6 hits with s equal to t of the victim, ap-, ignores cover

    - Liquifier is now s3 more expensive

    - Venom Blade can only be taken by the Acothyst now

    - Stun Claw +1S, ap6, confers ID in challenge

    - Shadow Field is more expensive doesn’t fail until end of phase

    - Agoniser is now Poison 4+, still AP3, same cost

    - Scissorhand is Poison 4+, Rending

    - Electro corrosive whip is Poison 5+ (sic), AP3, Concussive and is also the most expensive of all Coven weapons

    - Flesh Gauntlet is Poison 4+, ID on 6 To Hit

    - PGL does NOT confer grenades anymore - I have not seen the Incubi profile page, so cannot say if they've gained grenades or not

    - Splinter Cannons are Salvo 4/6 and got more expensive (so a double nerf)
    - lances on infantry are a bit cheaper

    - Heat Lance sliiiightly cheaper, it also says that it can be only taken by Scourges but without seeing the unit profiles I cannot verify if Reavers can take it or not

    - Mindphase Gauntlet, Flesh Gauntlet, Scissorhand are cheaper, half the cost; ECW is the same

    - Djin blade became 33% more expensive


    Artefacts:
    -- Animus Vitae
    one use, assault 1, s4 ap2, 8" if a unsaved wound is inflicted lets all Dark eldar add 1 to the turn number for PfP effects until the end of the game

    -- Archangel of Pain
    once per game, all units within 9" test Ld with a -2 penalty, then take a wound with no cover/armor saves for each point they failed. Sounds great BUT this does not work against ATSKNF!

    -- Armour of Misery
    Ghostplate with Fear and -2 Ld penalty to all enemy units within 6"

    -- Djin Blade
    AP3, +2 Attacks, after all attacks roll D6, on 1 the bearer suffers a wound with no saves

    -- Helm of Spite
    Adamantium Will for all friendly units within 12", Psykers within 12" suffer Perils on any double.

    -- Parasite's Kiss
    Pistol, Poison 2+, Master-crafted, after inflicting an unsaved wound, the bearer restores a single wound.

    - Wych weapons
    (all 5 points):
    Hydras confer Shred
    Razors reroll To Hit
    Shardnet/Impaler reroll 1s on To Hit and To Wound


    Vehicles, equipments/weapons
    - Splinter racks now work on all Splinter weapons

    - Shock Prow now gives AV14 when ramming

    - Chain Snares now let a vehicle Tank Shock but not Ram

    - Torment Gren. Launchers can now be fired, 24", blast, s1, unit hit tests Ld, takes a wound for each point it failed, no armor or cover saves, doesnt work against ATSKNF

    - Night Shield confers Stealth can’t be taken by venoms

    - flickerfields only for venoms

    - sails let a vehicle flat out 24"

    - Monoscythe, Shatterfield and Necrotoxin missles haven't changed

    - Implosion Msls are s6 ap2 blast

    - there are no new ranged weapons other than Ossefactor and Dark Scythe (24", S8, AP2, blast, only on Bomber)

    - Stinger Pod hasn’t changed

    - TGL, Night Shields, Splinter Racks, Trophies are all more expensive. TGL in particular has tripled in cost.

    - Envenomed Blades and Retrofire Jets are gone.

    - bomber is 10 av on all sides
    Collated by Charon 10-1-2014

    Talos are 1-3 in a unit.
    Cronos the same but cant mix with Talos.

    Kabalites are the same allthough PGL is as rumoured soulblight (no way of getting defensive grenades). 8 points and may take a raider even though a unit is 10+. (I guess there is a misunderstanding and he really means that Kabalites can take Raiders when they are more than 10 models and nt that kabalites are 10+)

    Only power swords (means not other energy weapons) and Agonisers which is AP 3, poison (4+)

    No more Klaivex Powers

    Ravager still AV11, no aerial Assault

    No more "small" Haemies, only the ancient is left

    There is one formation in the dex (not sure if he refers to the detatchment)

    No new movement rules for Talos/Chronos

    Lhamean lost their "confers 2+ poison to archon" rule (because that would have been nice with the new agonizer -.-)


    Razorwing is 130 points, may only take nightshields (which gives steath) and is a fast choice (not heavy). Its not a vector dancer :-( Dark Lances is a 5 points upgrade, comes standard with disintegrators.

    Grotesques are the new hit, I think. Same stats but.... they do not blow up and they got Flesh gauntlets + ccw and Rampage. Nice!! Flesh Gauntlets: S as user, AP-, Lethal Dose, poison (4+)

    Lethal Dose: 6 to wound gives ID.

    Scourges 4 weaps in 5 confirmed

    In the "Realspace Raiders Detachment" can you get 6 fast choices, yes. Giving 5+ cover save to troops and 6+ cover save too all others units in the detachment int the first turn AND any turn with night fighting.

    WWP is any unit the Archon/succubus/heamon that has it have joint and their transport. Thats DS without scattering.
    No blast.

    Transport capacity has not changed, no rides (bike, glider) for characters

    Mandrakes much better, stealth, shrouded and baleblast from start. Baleblast: assault 2, St 4. AP4, soulblaze

    Wyches are dead no buffs, no haywire, Dodge only in Fight subphase.

    Incubi cant get grenades.

    Upgrade for venoms is only Grisly trophies and chain snares.... no shields.

    Night shields give stealth and the new detachment gives cover in the first turn

    Clone field is 4+ inv

    Shadowfield is 40 points 2++ and shuts out at end of phase when failed, Archon only (which invalidates the succubus AGAIN, as she has no shiny armor for her T3)

    no flickerfields for flyers

    Harlequins are out (but still in the fluff)

    only wych champion, succubus, archon can have HWG
    via Arkalid 10-1-2014

    So I have seen the Codex and I took some notes for you guys.

    -Only Venoms get Flickerfields, the rest of the vehicles only get night fields.
    -Almost every unit is cheaper now. Price drops range from one to about three dozen in some cases. Most infantry units are cheaper. All Fast Attack options are cheaper, so are Kabalites. Wyches and Haemonculi Covens are the same in points.
    -Succubus can get the Relic armour, which has the cost of the good ol' times Tactical Marine, making her more viable.
    -Wyches got hit a little, their weapons now give re-rolls, now specialist weapons.
    -Incubi DO NOT have access to grenades.
    -Trueborn no longer have access to shardcarbines, they do get 4 special weapons and two heavy weapons.
    -Lelith no longer gets extra attacks.
    -Artifacts are actually good. Animus Vitae has Rng 8" S4 AP2 Assault 1, Agonising and One-use only. If it inflicts an unsaved wound, every model (friend or foe) with Power from Pain count the turn number being one bigger, stacks with other such bonuses and is permanent.
    -The Bomber basically destroys everything. The missiles are actually good, for example Implosion missiles are now AP2.
    -Most leaked rumours are true.

    The "Relic Armour", or The Armour of Misery, is a ghost plate (As 4+, 6++) that gives Fear and 6" -2 Ld bubble that effects enemies.

    All Wych weapons only affect the model using them.


    1) Only some unit champs can get Haywire grenades. Archon and Succubus have access to them. None of the Special Characters has Haywire grenades.

    2) Archon, Succubus, Wyches (and Bloodbrides), Scourges.

    3) Ravager is still 11/11/10 with 3HP

    4) Venom still carries only 5 models.

    5) Acothyst is the only model with access to Venom Blade

    1) The Voidraven was around 160+missiles. I think missile options were four shatterfield, two shatters and two implosions, or four implosions. Price range for those was 20-60. Razorwing was something like 120 or 130. Only shatter missiles had price, they were like 5pts each. Had to buy dark lances as an upgrade, price wasn't that high.

    2)Aethersails just let you move 24" when you go Flat Out

    3) Scourge now cost the same as last Codex's Hellions. They can take 4 heavy and/or special weapons, no matter the squad size. basically the same options as before, but some price adjustments in weapon prizes. Huskblade is ten points cheaper and is AP3.
    Via Charon and The Dark City 10-2-2014

    From a 100% reliable source wishing to remain anonymous (confirmed by pics):
    COVEN Supplement

    Power from pain - by turn number.
    1 – nothing
    2 – Fearless
    3 – Fear, Fearless
    4 – Fear, Fearless, it will not die
    5 – Fear, It will not die, zealot
    6+ - Eternal Warrior, fear, it will not die, zealot

    This is a straight copy from the book - yes some of the powers are omitted on purpose as they are not listed in the chart every turn

    Warlord chart
    1 – talos & chronos reroll FNP rolls of 1 within 12”of warlord
    2 – warlord plus any grotesques he joins gain it will not die
    3 – add or subtract 1 from reserve rolls
    4 – If your warlord is slain by an attack/weapon with AP 1 or 2 or with the ID rule, gain D3 VP
    5 – Warlord plus wracks he joins gain FNP4+
    6 – Warlord gains preferred enemy

    Artifacts
    10pts – pick one of the following at the start of your turn which lasts until your next turn – IWND, fleet, poisoned 4+, rampage (used each turn)
    10pts – fighting in a challenge – opponent suffers -5 to initiative
    25pts – 8”range, S1, AP2, assault 1, blast, instant death, no effect on vehicles (used as a grenade in shooting phase)
    10pts – Additional D6 attacks at S3, AP- at initiative 10, grant an additional pile in move at this step, no bonus applicable for furious charge, rending etc
    20pts – IWND 4+, only wounded by poisons special rule on 6
    35pts - +1 to FNP rolls, negate first wound suffered if it has the ID rule but when this happens, the item is lost

    Coven Detachment
    Required – 2HQ, 2 Elite
    Optional – 4HQ, 6 Elite, 4 Heavy Support
    Units that are available in the detachment – Urien, Haemonculus, Raider (DT only), Venom (DT only), Wracks, grotesques, talos, chronos
    Benefits – if this is the primary detachment you can reroll warlord chart from this book. All enemy units within 12”of 1 or more models from this detachment suffer -1LD

    7(!!!) formations as well!
    Via Mr.Smith 10-3-2014
    Well speaking of supplements and our good friends at Dark City, here are the Coven formations!! The 1st one is insane!

    Formations

    1 - urien or haemy plus 2 units of grots - d6 roll at start of game for grots - +1S, +1T, fleet, shred, rage, 4+ FNP

    2 - 1 haemy, 1 chronos, 2 units of wracks - all wracks gain precision strike, wracks treat turn 1 higher for pfp. if haemy is the warlord he gets trait 4 automatically

    3 - 2 units of wracks in 2 venoms - if a unit in this formation scores first blood, gain D3 vp rather than 1. Wracks must start embarked an in reserve. Deployed turn 1 via deep strike

    4 - unit of 5 Talos - gain scout. Score an extra vp for any non vehicle unit killed in combat

    5 - 1 haemy, 1 Chronos, 1 Talos - form a single unit. Characters may not join it outside of this formation. Talos and chronos gain +1ws and init. If haemy is warlord, gain trait 1 automatically

    6 - 1 haemy, 3 units of wracks with raiders. Master of pain from haemy confers to all units in this formation within 12". Warlord trait 5 if haemy is warlord

    7 - all 6 formations as above in 1 formation - called the carnival of pain. Urien form formation 1 has his master of pain rule confer to whole formation. All non vehicles reroll 1's to wound in combat

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    So no bretonians?
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    There's plenty of time between now and the end of the year to squeeze in Bretonnia. Depending on which timing rumour you believe.

    Brets are currently down to just twelve items on the website, one of which is the army book, three of which are out of stock and one of which is a bitz pack.

    Heck, if they're not getting an update soon, I'd almost believe they're getting Squatted.

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    One things for certain with DE codex. Were going to lose a ton of Special Characters. I wouldnt be suprised to see Malys, Sliscus, Khereducrrkeys (the mandrake chap no one has ever used) and everyones favourite one trick pony, the baron, disappear.

    No model, no rules seems to be GW approach
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    They might release models for some of them. Wouldn't be sad to see Kheradruakh go though, mediocre character with uninteresting background in my opinion. Mandakes work better as weird faceless ethereal things, not giving them names and backstories.
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    You never know; the current Dark Eldar range is pretty heavy on the plastics right now so aside from HQs, only the Beasts, Incubi, Mandrakes, Wracks and Grotesques need lifting out of Finecast (edit: and the Harlequins, I always forget about them).

    I think that leaves some room for some model-less characters to get plastic blisters (or boxes, in the case of the Buenos Dias, and probably the Baron would be a mini-box like the Shokk Attack Gun).

    Hopefully Malys is one of them; there are precious few female characters as it is without vanishing one, and the Dark Eldar plastics come the closest to an even male / female ratio of any faction so failing to uphold that would be doubly disappointing.

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    My thoughts exactly on the special characters. Orks lost some and I can see DE losing the same.

    Unfortunately recent codex seem to indicate 40k is moving away from x special character alters FoC and favoring dataslates and formations instead. So I sadly think we will see special characters like the Duke, who significantly alter the way an army functions, go to the wayside.
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    I don't think Incubi need new models, I won't mind if they don't get a plastic kit, there are units that need it considerably more and the current models are fine. Mandrakes could do with plastic for variety, but not vital. The ones that really need plastic are Grotesques, Wracks and Beasts. Mainly Clawed Fiends and Flocks. Khymerae are easily made with Dire Wolves and Tyranid bits, they look pretty much perfect, but they aren't going to make two and not the third.

    I'm not too bothered about the removal of characters like Sliscus and Malys as long as Archons in general get more options to make up for it.

    My main hope is that Mandrakes are good and Succubi get a better dodge save like Lelith. I don't use a Succubus myself, but they're supposed to be incredible one-on-one fighters and they're currently a bit rubbish at it. They should be able to take on a Captain but as it is they're just going to get power fisted while their weapons bounce off of artificer armour. On that point, it would be nice for Succubi to get access to some kind of AP2 weapon that isn't a power axe, for the same reason that Autarchs really needed to be able to take executioners but sadly still can't.

    Most of all I'm excited for Voidraven and Asdrubael Vect models. The Voidraven has always sounded so cool, and they aren't going to remove Vect so we should finally get to see the big daddy himself.
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    I am pretty sure Dark Eldar won't be next month (August).

    Could be wrong but I was under the impression they were going to be the pre-Christmas October release (to tie in with hallowe'en again).

    However with the way the Ork Codex was done, with 4 weeks of model releases before the Codex I could see them starting model releases in September.

    I had heard the Void Raven was going to be their big release, literally as apparently it is a pretty big kit, so September/October sounds right as this is the start of the Retail Xmas period and would more than likely go on Xmas lists?

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    Dammit!! I just started to collect these!!
    Vect - Lord of war I betya!! Though is there a model for him? Would they write him out of the codex?
    And yes, its guaranteed characters without models will be gone - IMO!!

 

 
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