Dark Eldar Rumor Roundup

[40kGamer]

So no vector dancer? If that is true who the hell is writing this stuff?

[Charon]

Cruddace if im not mistaken, the slightly upgraded version of Ward.

[HERO]

Shooting is still pretty good, ravager will be useless if it oses aerial assault. Scourges and flyers are still good anti-tank. Wyches, reavers and incubi are worthless without access to assault grenades, archons are going to suck at challenged but why would you challenge in a ****ty assault army anyway. Splinter weaponry is better.

It's not a wholesale disaster, it's just really bull**** that they managed to nerf already underpowered assault units. What teh **** is GWs problem with eldar assault units? They act like they are overpowered and don't need grenades its ****ing insane, and don't get me started on abilities which don't work against Marine only ATSKNF, **** that ****.

Wait, I thought you were still holding your breath?

[40kGamer]

Cruddace if im not mistaken, the slightly upgraded version of Ward.

Well I guess an Imperial Shoebox piloted by a human should be more maneuverable then a purpose built agile craft piloted by some of the best in the galaxy. What was I thinking?

[Defenestratus]

On the plus side if the Dark Eldar rumors play out noone will be concerned about you playing them at a tournament.

Thanks. I don't play tournaments (I think being competitive over plastic toy soldiers using dice to figure out who wins is the definition of folly) nor do I play Dark Eldar (as a proper Eldar player shouldn't) so this release doesn't affect me in the slightest.

However, everyone constantly bringing up the fact that Eldar are due to get smitten from orbit because they're currently the bad guy of the Plastic Toy General Pattons community really just bothers me.

[Charon]

You can expect to lose your exarch powers for example, as the only DE Aspects lost them too

[Defenestratus]

You can expect to lose your exarch powers for example, as the only DE Aspects lost them too

Well, Incubi aren't on the path of the warrior and lost to Kaela Mensha Khaine's grip. Not saying it doesn't suck for Incubi but at least there's a justification as to why exarchs are more better than the aspects that they command.

I'll adapt or I'll quit. Either way I come out on top.

Also, past behavior is no indication of future results. Everyone expected Vect to be a LoW because of the "trend" in 7e codexes. That trend only lasted for what, 3 books? I remember a bunch of people saying "war walkers are totally getting nerfed to become twin linked because thats how it works for every other army" and then that not happening either.

I don't think you can count on any kind of consistency coming from GW these days in their products. The only real predictable behavior is that which directly correlates to making more money.

[40kGamer]

Thanks. I don't play tournaments (I think being competitive over plastic toy soldiers using dice to figure out who wins is the definition of folly) nor do I play Dark Eldar (as a proper Eldar player shouldn't) so this release doesn't affect me in the slightest.

However, everyone constantly bringing up the fact that Eldar are due to get smitten from orbit because they're currently the bad guy of the Plastic Toy General Pattons community really just bothers me.

Totally understandable! I go to tournaments to have some fun playing with new people and I really favor tournaments with significant "soft" scores. These bring out a slightly more relaxed crowd with a focus on Sports/Paint. I love playing Eldar (and their Dark kin) because fast armies really suit my play style. Now it appears the choice will be top tier "slap your opponent" Eldar force or a "take one for the team" Dark Eldar one. Maybe mixing the two will provide a reasonable alternative.

For whatever reason GW appears to be tending to simplify all of the newer books by taking away far more then they add.

[HERO]

I don't think you can count on any kind of consistency coming from GW these days in their products. The only real predictable behavior is that which directly correlates to making more money.

Yup. Back to Fantasy.

[Arkalid]

So I have seen the Codex and I took some notes for you guys.

-Only Venoms get Flickerfields, the rest of the vehicles only get night fields.
-Almost every unit is cheaper now. Price drops range from one to about three dozen in some cases. Most infantry units are cheaper. All Fast Attack options are cheaper, so are Kabalites. Wyches and Haemonculi Covens are the same in points.
-Succubus can get the Relic armour, which has the cost of the good ol' times Tactical Marine, making her more viable.
-Wyches got hit a little, their weapons now give re-rolls, now specialist weapons.
-Incubi DO NOT have access to grenades.
-Trueborn no longer have access to shardcarbines, they do get 4 special weapons and two heavy weapons.
-Lelith no longer gets extra attacks.
-Artifacts are actually good. Animus Vitae has Rng 8" S4 AP2 Assault 1, Agonising and One-use only. If it inflicts an unsaved wound, every model (friend or foe) with Power from Pain count the turn number being one bigger, stacks with other such bonuses and is permanent.
-The Bomber basically destroys everything. The missiles are actually good, for example Implosion missiles are now AP2.
-Most leaked rumours are true.



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