Grey Knights Rumour Roundup

[DarkLink]

They're not fakes, they're directly from GW., accidentally bundled with the SW digital stuff. They are supposedly out of date, though.

[Galushi]

Seems weird they would remove Psybolts but still have incinerators, which are basically flamers with psyflame.

I'm still holding out some hope, since without psybolts the GK weaponry is very lacking high strength guns aside from Lascannons/Melta on Land Raiders and Stormravens.

[Learn2Eel]

Seems weird they would remove Psybolts but still have incinerators, which are basically flamers with psyflame.

I'm still holding out some hope, since without psybolts the GK weaponry is very lacking high strength guns aside from Lascannons/Melta on Land Raiders and Stormravens.

Well to be fair Psyflame and Psybolt were to allow units that lacked Incinerators and Psycannons (i.e. Razorbacks, Land Raiders, Stormravens) to still fit in with other Grey Knights. Psyflame + Heavy Flamer = Incinerator/ Psybolt + Assault Cannon = Psycannon. The only real abuse was on Heavy Bolter turrets but otherwise it all made sense. As to the new codex, one possibility that has been thrown around is that all Grey Knights come standard with Psybolt - it would certainly explain why the power-armoured models didn't get any cheaper. Also of note is that Draigo has dropped 30 points....I never had a problem with his rules so I hope they haven't been toned down, though I pray they've tweaked his background. Oh, and Nemesis Dreadknights with 30 point Personal Teleporters? Count me in! I am also of the opinion the leaked copy isn't finished as there doesn't seem to be any unit entries for Rhinos/Razorbacks/Land Raiders, that or no-one bothered to look at them.

[Galushi]

Well to be fair Psyflame and Psybolt were to allow units that lacked Incinerators and Psycannons (i.e. Razorbacks, Land Raiders, Stormravens) to still fit in with other Grey Knights. Psyflame + Heavy Flamer = Incinerator/ Psybolt + Assault Cannon = Psycannon. The only real abuse was on Heavy Bolter turrets but otherwise it all made sense. As to the new codex, one possibility that has been thrown around is that all Grey Knights come standard with Psybolt - it would certainly explain why the power-armoured models didn't get any cheaper. Also of note is that Draigo has dropped 30 points....I never had a problem with his rules so I hope they haven't been toned down, though I pray they've tweaked his background. Oh, and Nemesis Dreadknights with 30 point Personal Teleporters? Count me in! I am also of the opinion the leaked copy isn't finished as there doesn't seem to be any unit entries for Rhinos/Razorbacks/Land Raiders, that or no-one bothered to look at them.

I was thinking that as well. Though I have a hard time believing termies got that much cheaper with baked in Psybolts. I'm more inclined to think the entries weren't complete. For Psybolts to stay in I would have expected that we'd be paying per model rather then the flat fee per unit. Something like 3 pts/model. Slightly cheaper on 5man units, slightly more on full 10. That's probably what I'll houserule them if they remove them completely.

[daboarder]

Seems weird they would remove Psybolts but still have incinerators, which are basically flamers with psyflame.

I'm still holding out some hope, since without psybolts the GK weaponry is very lacking high strength guns aside from Lascannons/Melta on Land Raiders and Stormravens.

Its possible Psycannons, Incinerators have had another profile change, taking them back to the unique weapons they used to be and away form the +1 assault cannon/ flamer

[Agramar]

Confirmed,Grey Knigths are next:
[url]http://descansodelescriba.blogspot.com/2014/08/se-confiraadios-lobos-espaciales-hola.html[/url]

[Wildcard]

Its possible Psycannons, Incinerators have had another profile change, taking them back to the unique weapons they used to be and away form the +1 assault cannon/ flamer

What could those special properties be? (I mean i am not familiar with the previous incarnations)
- Ignore invulnerable save
- ignore cover save
- rending
- something else?

Anyway, so far all i am hearing is what i've always hoped GK to be.. Happy times, now there's only hoping that gw hasn't f*cked this up

[daboarder]

The old Incinerator was a heavy flamer that also ignored all invul saves and the Psycannon was like a heavy bolter, but had 2 profiles, one for moving and firing, and it also ignored invuls. was very cool, personally I also thought it should have been taken to the next logical step and applied the AP/Sv rules to invuls, ie, AP4 beats 4+ invuls

personally I dont care, but grey knights need a ballancing, even if its just removing ObjSec from palladins

[Wildcard]

Not sure about the state of your local meta, but where i play the life expectancy is the lowest for any terminator armor with the nemesis dreadknight close in the second. Only time when PAGs will be the number 1 cannon fodder is when there are helldrakes around..

Anyway, anything that makes me able to take more terminators makes me a happy grandmaster

DAboarder: You mean GK are somewhat OP now? (or do i just misunderstand your post)

[Chris*ta]

Also, it'd give me the perfect excuse to run a fluffy Dark Angels list with attached Inquisitor and retinue, investigating the actions and doctrines of the Unforgiven.

Umm, wouldn't this be unfluffy? I'd think the Dark Angels would do everything they can to keep Inquisitors away from the Unforgiven, and potentially finding out their dark secret ...