Scottish Independence thread

[Wildeybeast]

Yeah, in that regard he is a success. He has also inadvertently secured devo max. However, he is still a loser and it is an immutable law in human society that people won't follow losers. Sooner or later (most likely sooner) someon in his party would have started to ask why they were still following a proven loser and the knives would have been sharpened. Then the SNP would have got embroiled in a leadership crisis, which would have detracted from their success, take the focus off the gains made in the independence movement and quite possibly given Westminster a chance to slow down the transfer of power a wee bit. He could have stayed, but for the sake of his party and their goals, he had to stand down.

[Denzark]

I'm pretty sure the Referendum was not his desired aim. At least I hope the millions of pounds in wasted time, effort, money of the stock market etc was not just to have a referendum for the sake of it.

He wanted independence. He couldn't promise that because it relied on a few other people as well.

As to integrity, he luckily was not exposed as a deluxe fibber - because his erroneous assertions on the Pound, NATO and EU membership and all sorts of other gash, can't be proven wrong because he didn't get his independence.

But I'll give you that he was a man of great principle, for sure and even a great politician.

But for me integrity means your pants would have to be less on fire.

[Wildeybeast]

Seconded. The worrying thing is 45% of the populace believed his guff.

[Kirsten]

no vote narrowly avoids lengthy custody battle over Sir Ian Mckellan

[url]http://www.theonion.com/articles/ugly-custody-battle-over-ian-mckellen-narrowly-avo,36968/[/url]

[Mr Mystery]

I'm pretty sure the Referendum was not his desired aim. At least I hope the millions of pounds in wasted time, effort, money of the stock market etc was not just to have a referendum for the sake of it.

He wanted independence. He couldn't promise that because it relied on a few other people as well.

As to integrity, he luckily was not exposed as a deluxe fibber - because his erroneous assertions on the Pound, NATO and EU membership and all sorts of other gash, can't be proven wrong because he didn't get his independence.

But I'll give you that he was a man of great principle, for sure and even a great politician.

But for me integrity means your pants would have to be less on fire.

He wanted Independence, but only promised the referendum.

Successful Politician is ultimately successful.

[Denzark]

Very political of you!

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What's all this aboot then?

[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11110051/Telegraph-reporters-barred-from-Alex-Salmonds-resignation-press-conference.html"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11110051/Telegraph-reporters-barred-from-Alex-Salmonds-resignation-press-conference.html[/URL]

[lobster-overlord]

What's all this aboot then?

[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11110051/Telegraph-reporters-barred-from-Alex-Salmonds-resignation-press-conference.html"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11110051/Telegraph-reporters-barred-from-Alex-Salmonds-resignation-press-conference.html[/URL]

they wern't banned... they wern't invited. to say they were banned is like saying the this vote meant scotland was just re-annexed, rather than voting down independance

[Mr Mystery]

And of the papers invited, just one supported the Yes vote.

Tort graph, daily fascist A and daily fascist B?

No, can't imagine why they weren't invited...