Scottish Independence thread

[Mr Mystery]

Never said it wasn't biased. Opinions tend to carry bias.

[Bitrider]

Never said it wasn't biased. Opinions tend to carry bias.

Speaking of bias...switching between watching BBC One and BBC Scotland I am amazed by the stark contrast in coverage 'attitude'. BBC One is always harsh with anyone from the 'Yes' campaign, Yes campaign in-studio guests, etc. Whereas on BBC Scotland they give everyone an even shake, no attitude, just discussion and evaluation. (except for the UKIP MEP David Coburn which is really funny - All the BBC-Scotland guests either from Yes or No ignore the UKIP guy or outright slight the guy. Even the host rides him a bit.)

[Wildeybeast]

Well, that's that done then. It's a no, thank god. Scotland will doubtless get more powers whilst Sctotish MPs can still vote on matters that only affect England, thanks to inept bungling and cowardice of the Westminster parties. Hopefully the issue will be left well alone and we can about healing some of the divisions this debate has caused.

[Mr Mystery]

There's a call in Scotland for England to get a devolved Parliament.

As you said, the fact there isn't one right now isn't Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland's doing

I'm interested to see if any Political Parties will campaign as hard next year for the General Election. Think what you may of the SNP and Salmond, but you can't knock their successful campaign to just get people out and voting.

[Wildeybeast]

Oh yeah, not blaming Scotland. Salmond has basically got what he wanted all along - devo max. All the benefits with none of the burdens. He has played a canny hand.

The problem with an English devolved Parliament is that Westminster IS our Parliament. The other nations were merged into it, then given their own when devolution happened. The only way to give England a devolved government is boot the MPs from other nations out of Westminster.

[Psychosplodge]

All we need is a ban on MPs voting on issues that don't affect their constituency.

[Wolfshade]

No, all we need is the restoration of the kingdom of mercia, re-establishing the Archdiocease of Lichfield, and return of the kings of the line of Æthelflæd.

[Mr Mystery]

Oh yeah, not blaming Scotland. Salmond has basically got what he wanted all along - devo max. All the benefits with none of the burdens. He has played a canny hand.

The problem with an English devolved Parliament is that Westminster IS our Parliament. The other nations were merged into it, then given their own when devolution happened. The only way to give England a devolved government is boot the MPs from other nations out of Westminster.

I don't think you'd find anyone objecting to that!

[eldargal]

Relieved.

[Mr Mystery]

Ball is now in Westminster's park.

Honestly? I think they panicked hard and promised too much too vaguely, and they're more or less stuck with it. It's going to ruffle some feathers and no mistake, but I don't see them welching on the offer.

And Westminster have a lot to gain from this. Matter of Scottish Independence could, once and for all, be put to bed, roped in, nailed down, bunged in a lead lined casket, and shot into the sun forever more if they play this right.

If they start getting politicky about it? We could be seeing another referendum due to broken promises etc.

Salmond came. Salmond saw. And let's face it - Salmond conquered. The option he knew Scotland really wanted (Devo Max) is now what's about to happen. Who knows, he might now retire from politics. He has achieved his raison d'etre. All that can happen now is a decline unto retirement. Best to head off into legend as the man that can.