Scottish Independence thread

[Denzark]

Ooh dear, North Sea oil revenues dip £1.4Bn in a year.

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/11065077/Salmond-attacked-as-North-Sea-oil-revenue-plummets.html[/url]

[Psychosplodge]

So there's been some of salmons sneaky yes-men that failed to comment...

[Denzark]

Interesting comment from a 4 star general just leaving a job in NATO - another SME contradicting the SNP's position:

[url]http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/in-full-general-sir-richard-shirreff-s-letter-1-3526265[/url]

[Psychosplodge]

So somewhere else where Salmon's figures don't add up?

[Mr Mystery]

Yet it's looking increasingly likely Scotland will make the break.

3 point shift, and it's a Yes.

And don't lose sight of the fact that it's not so much about being better off financially for many, as being out from under the yoke of Westminster.

[eldargal]

Yet it's looking increasingly likely Scotland will make the break.

3 point shift, and it's a Yes.

And don't lose sight of the fact that it's not so much about being better off financially for many, as being out from under the yoke of Westminster.

[URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-29037323"]It's not that rosy for Yes really.[/URL]

[Psychosplodge]

Yet it's looking increasingly likely Scotland will make the break.

3 point shift, and it's a Yes.

And don't lose sight of the fact that it's not so much about being better off financially for many, as being out from under the yoke of Westminster.

Actually its exactly about financial security, there was an article at beginning of campaign that suggested the undecideds could be swayed for as little as £500
a year better off.

[Mr Mystery]

As I said, for many financials aren't the be all and end all in the way the No campaign have been claiming.

I still don't think we'll see it happen, but it is getting too close to call. Yes voters have much more to gain, so are more likely to actually turn out. Consider it a sort of UKIP affect. UKIP did well not because they're exactly popular anywhere, but because their supporters actually got out there and voted. Regardless of how you feel about that particular brand of political lunatic, they have achieved something the three main parties haven't in a long old time (probably because Politics is a lot easier with widespread political apathy)

[eldargal]

I think people are ignoring the impact the 'oh **** this is real with real consequences' moment people will have when they actually come to vote.

[Mr Mystery]

There is that to factor in, but the Scots do tend to be quite bloody minded.