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[Gir]

No, you're still wrong. That is not how the wording of Deflagrate works, and repeating the wrong interpretation won't make it right no matter how many times you say it.

This comment goes both ways.

[The Emperor]

Let's put it another way: If that's not how it works, then why specify "normal" attack under both Deflagrate and Tempest Attack? If your reading were correct, then there's no reason whatsoever to put "normal" in there, because there's no limit to when Deflagrate can be used. It's obviously there because it's telling you that there are attacks when it can't be used, specifically attacks which aren't considered "normal", and then Tempest Attack tells you that it's not a "normal" attack. There's no other logical reading of those two bits, and I'm frankly flabbergasted that anyone would argue otherwise.

[Houghten]

Because Deflagrate was written first and copy-pasted from Betrayal, and Forge World don't have a great track record of considering how old and new interact.

When Deflagrate says "normal" it means "attacks that aren't the extra hits caused by Deflagrate."

[Gir]

Because Deflagrate was written first and copy-pasted from Betrayal, and Forge World don't have a great track record of considering how old and new interact.

When Deflagrate says "normal" it means "attacks that aren't the extra hits caused by Deflagrate."

I would argue it doesn't, as it also specifically mentions the extra don't further generate more hits.

[DWest]

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On 24 September 2014 06:01, <redacted> <[email protected]> wrote:

A question about the Castigator's Tempest Sword; when making a Tempest Attack, it says "use the weapon's profile", so would that include the Deflagrate and Sunder effects?

[Gir]

No one was saying you don't use the deflatrate rule, just that it doesn't trigger most of the text. Your question doesn't actually answer anything. It's a fundamentally different question to "do Tempest Attacks generate extra hits from Deflagrate?"

[DWest]

[Gir]

It triggers the Deflagrate rule, the rule then fails the first condition "normal attacks" and skips the effect. I've never denied the rule triggers, just that the extra hit effect doesn't because of the first condition of the rule.

[DWest]

That didn't answer my question. Go re-read the email from Forgeworld: It specifies that the Deflagrate effect triggers, i.e. the additional attacks. Your interpretation is not correct and will continue to be incorrect until or unless Forgeworld changes how Tempest Attack or Deflagrate works.

[Gir]