Dark Angels do this sort of thing best. Really.
Dark Angels do this sort of thing best. Really.
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?52423-The-Blood-Pact-Chaos-Homebrew-Supplement&p=472214&viewfull=1#post472214
The standard parts would still net you a full 20 Assault Terminators, but they'd have to be ten lightning claws and ten thunder hammers.
You couldn't do 20 shooty Terminators, though. You only get ten storm bolters, which is two short of 3x5 even with heavy weapons, let alone 4x5.
not really, you'd have to go unbound but you could do a SM variant with its own flavour.
Something like
Chapter master/ Lysander/Marneus
2x Shooty squads
1xHammenators
Land raider/Storm Raven
some dreads for spice
but they do tend to have less support options or bonuses like the other armeis
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I disagree, not enough support options and too many PPM
Morbid Angels:http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?7100-Morbid-angel-WIP
I probably come across as a bit of an ***, don't worry I just cannot abide stupid.
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?52423-The-Blood-Pact-Chaos-Homebrew-Supplement&p=472214&viewfull=1#post472214
Against average opponents and armies, certainly. But for the most part, competitive armies can just force too many armor saves for deathwing to be viable.
I am the Hammer. I am the right hand of my Emperor. I am the tip of His spear, I am the gauntlet about His fist. I am the woes of daemonkind. I am the Hammer.
With the new GK Nemesis Strike Formation, there is no need for Land Raiders anymore as your entire army can start Deep Striking on turn 1. TDA heavy GK lists are back in vogue, with max Jump NDK, troop TDA, TDA buff HQs, TDA LoW with Gate, and a squad or 2 of PA Shunters with Flamers. A bit of a mono-build, but very much the most optimized playstyle for GKs.
SJ
Who cares if its viable or not. If you like the look and feel of the army then you'll always find people to play against you.
Its not about winning, its about having fun playing the game.
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. --Voltaire
I'm gonna give it a go using Wolf Guard. I shall report back when I have done so
While this is true, losing every game especially when it's just because the game is so unbalanced that what you like is bad, is going to piss anyone off and make them frustrated. With the investment involved in 40k I'd rather not end up spending hundreds of dollars just to basically auto-lose. It's not a matter of being concerned finding people to play against, it's not wanting to get frustrated by putting time and effort into an army that can't win and then just end up always losing. Winning might not be everything but when you always lose it gets upsetting.
If terminators aren't viable, how are Sternguard/Vanguard? A 1st Company army could also fit my idea/theme without being entirely Terminators, but the typical SM mix wouldn't.