When a proxy isn't a proxy

[Morgrim]

I've playtested models as other models. I've used a wingless balrog as a talos for a few weeks while trying to work out if I wanted one or two of them in my army and nobody objected; but on the other hand it is a model of about the right size that doesn't look like it should be something else and I checked first.

[Da Gargoyle]

I would say no to proxies also. Having gamed against them the problem I have is that you have to keep in mind what they are while your opponent automatically knows what your wysiwyg force is. Further, there is the suspicion that proxies are used because you need something that you did not bring to deal with an unexpected threat in your opponents force. Just use the force you bring and keep the field level. If you really like a unit type buy the thing. I once converted a 50's Russian MiG into an Ork Fighta Bomba (1/48 scale works well), and this was before they released flyer kits. And while you could see the Ork in it and it was red as; I never imposed it on others in gaming. It was just a house rules thing with a few of my closest hated enemies. So I can see the appeal but I know how easy it is to abuse the privilege.

[Vincenzo Bruni]

Of course you need some examples of our work.

[Denzark]

Of course you need some examples of our work.

Let me see if I get it.

1. Some sort of kroot.

2. Genestealer cult limo. Love the model, what is is for 40K? Chimera? Where is the turret, where is the hatch for measuring range from.

3. A WWI tank, probably the 1:32 Emhar kit. Looks good, what is it though? Too big for LR.

4. (and also 7) - 7 looks very much like something I saw on tanks and trolls, some sort of heresy era flier. No idea what they are, should they be that big, bigger? The only piece I recognise is a predator turret on the top of 7 - you ain't telling me that's a thunderhawk cannon and it cannot traverse downwards...

5. Stomper. Love it - that to me is a scratch build not a proxy.

6. Mycetic spore - do they even exist anymore? Nice but easily recognisable.

8 and 9. Orky vehicles. No idea about the first, second looks like the super heavy doomhammer or fortress, can't remember the name. Ork vehicles have always been a grey area - although in GW house tourney rules, if there is a model, it has to be used - which stops people having giant battlewagons that are already 14 inches across the table from the start.

So with the exception of 5 and 6 (stompa and spore) you see the problem with proxies - although I readily concede the modelling is good.

[Vincenzo Bruni]

Of course not every model show here is actually "ours", many of them are just found on the net. But our community is right now 483 members-strong.

[DETHMOKIL]

I like how imagination is all of a sudden MY burden, and not something YOU use to make your models more creative.

If this was on /tg/ I'd call you a troll.

[GrauGeist]

Of course you need some examples of our work.

Of these, only big Kroot looks good; the rest is meh to terrible. 10% pass rate needs work.

[Pssyche]

Of course you need some examples of our work.

Of course not every model show here is actually "ours", many of them are just found on the net. But our community is right now 483 members-strong.

Our work...
Not actually "ours'"...

Make your mind up.

[Ben_S]

2. Genestealer cult limo. Love the model, what is is for 40K? Chimera? Where is the turret, where is the hatch for measuring range from.

I think I've seen this before. At least, if it is the one I'm thinking of then the owner ran the Cult as Tyranids, using Brood Brothers as counts-as Termagants and the Limos were Tervigons 'spawning' (disembarking) more Brood Brothers/Termagants.

I can't immediately recognise what all of those things are, but I'd say they all look like conversions/scratchbuilds rather than proxies to me. I wouldn't have a problem facing any of them.

[Anggul]

I think 'proxy' is the wrong word and that's why you're getting such negative reactions.

It's more of a scratch-build and conversion page. Looks to have some decent stuff on it, especially that Skeletor/Nagash one.