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    Default British Politics Thread.

    How do?

    So, referendum is done and over with, so Independence Thread is now a bit defunct. So I started this one, hurrah!

    I'll kick off with a puzzler....

    Labour seem reticent over English Parliament type thing. Which is crazy.

    I don't think there's a single person in Scotland who feels it isn't daft that a Scottish MP can vote on matters solely affecting England.

    Way I see it, a more federal UK could be a good thing - lots of grumbling over the years about Westminster being too Londoncentric in it's views and influences. Yet Labour aren't really back it.

    Answer seems fairly obvious - Scotland has a decent number of Labour MPs, and just a single Tory, so those votes are important. But the confusing thing? Seems they're about to make exactly the same mistake the Tory party did in 1997 - refuse to discuss a pressing matter.

    For the Tories, it was a Scottish (and indeed Welsh) desire for devolution. Lib Dumbs and Labour put it to the people. Tories just said 'no'. Net result? Tory massacre in Scotland. Not a single Tory MP from north of the border. And Labour now risk that very same mistake!
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    Ah the west lothian question
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    Indeed. Slightly more info in this article about the stances the various parties are adopting.

    Westminster really needs to get on this one and pronto. Promsies made to Scotland should be stuck to, but equally the rest of the UK should not miss out. Otherwise, you'll just generate hostility towards Scotland, even though the current imbalance is not their doing!
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    I was speaking to a friend about this at the weekend.

    Really there should be UK-wide laws, which all elected MPs can vote on and then "federal" type laws that only MPs for that legisture body can vote on (Wlesh Assembly, Scottish Parliament, Stormont and an English version).

    The trouble comes dividing what laws are passed by which areas.

    There was a general consensus that any costs arising from changing from UK to national variance should have th cost met in that region.

    E.g. if Wales decided every household should own three sheeps, it is up to the WA to fund it.

    Though we couldn't decide where you would draw the lines of what should be whole UK and what should be Nation by nation.
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    I quite agree - I think a federal UK would be inherently fairer as a society.

    Living/Working in London or the home counties leads to skewed perceptions of how the country is doing as a wider whole.

    As a country we've got a really good chance here to modernise our somewhat archaic governmental system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshade View Post
    I was speaking to a friend about this at the weekend.

    Really there should be UK-wide laws, which all elected MPs can vote on and then "federal" type laws that only MPs for that legisture body can vote on (Wlesh Assembly, Scottish Parliament, Stormont and an English version).

    The trouble comes dividing what laws are passed by which areas.

    There was a general consensus that any costs arising from changing from UK to national variance should have th cost met in that region.

    E.g. if Wales decided every household should own three sheeps, it is up to the WA to fund it.

    Though we couldn't decide where you would draw the lines of what should be whole UK and what should be Nation by nation.
    You mean like how Scotland gets free prescriptions and universities paid for by the UK?
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    Just don't federalize education. Having several different school systems is a horrible idea

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    Kind of have already.....

    State School (BIG UP THE PLEB EDUCATED MASSIVE!)
    Grammars
    Free Schools
    Private and Public Schools.

    Scotland also has a different set of guidelines (and if you don't get your qualification in Scotland, you can't teach there)
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    Event state "schools" aren't the same across the country.

    In some areas there is a two teir system in others there are three.

    But, yes Wildey like the free prescriptions.
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    In my capacity as a Lefty Liberal Scot (by birth only now. Lived in England 23 years!) I think the pertinent question isn't 'why does Scotland get X' but 'how come we don't have X' for the rest of the UK.
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