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    We managed to run refugee camps effectively during WWII, when the country was on the verge of collapse, I'm sure the country is easily capable of affording it now- CG is right, they shouldn't cost much to run- they don't need luxury, just security and basic human rights.

    Hmm, I would agree on the face of it Psychosplodge, but if we take the people from Calais, then more will be able to move into France through Europe. Logistically speaking, it would make sense to move everyone along one step than move people in all the way from Turkey. Also, Turkey isn't safe really- it was in the middle of a long-going civil war insurgency before IS started- the safe areas are the tourist traps in the West of the country. The reason Turkey has been so reticent to take sides in the conflict is because of the civil war- if they support the Kurds in Syria and Iraq then they indirectly support their own Kurdish rebels.
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    France treats its migrants like **** and it has levels of islamophobia that make our problems with it look tame. If I were a Muslim migrant (or even a migrant with brown skin who could be mistaken for a Muslim migrant) I wouldn't want to live there.
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    It doesn't matter, it's safer than a warzone. How many safe countries must one have passed through to reach calais? to me that smacks of economic migration not refugees.

    We should help organise the camps in turkey more. and take people from there.

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    I just feel that saying we're having it a bit tough so we can't help at all is a bit bullsh*t, really. Is it really that hard? For us, tightening our belts means not getting that new Curved LED screen for a while and having to slum it on the bus because the car's broken down. Might have to start buying Tesco Value food as well.

    You telling me we can't provide basic food for migrants, when apparently we were providing school meals for 17p each a few years. Triple that to 50p each for inflation then triple it again for your three steady meals a day. The cost of feeding these 3000 people then translates to, what, £4,500 a day, at least until we start helping them get into work in order to cover it themselves? Add on basic housing and other amenities, and it still ends up being pretty cheap in the grand scheme of the government budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosplodge View Post
    It doesn't matter, it's safer than a warzone. How many safe countries must one have passed through to reach calais? to me that smacks of economic migration not refugees.

    We should help organise the camps in turkey more. and take people from there.
    How many countries with the pass-them-on-we're-full mindset Britain has?
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    Not to mention that they could easily be fed on the food that gets thrown away by this countries supermarkets every day because it hasn't been sold to customers.

    If we could support refugees from across Europe when the entire country was on rations, we can do it now for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeegrunt
    How many countries with the pass-them-on-we're-full mindset Britain has?
    That doesn't even make sense. I'm not saying we shouldn't take anyone at all, but I don't think its appropriate to take those at calais.

    I don't understand how Germany seriously expects to take in 1% of its population in a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosplodge View Post
    That doesn't even make sense. I'm not saying we shouldn't take anyone at all, but I don't think its appropriate to take those at calais.
    How does it not make sense to help the people literally sitting at our doorstep?
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    Why would we help people who've made it to france?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosplodge View Post
    Why would we help people who've made it to france?
    to stop France becoming overburdened and to do our part to help these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosplodge View Post
    Why would we help people who've made it to france?
    Because the French have pushed them out to the edge of their society and refused to integrate them?
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