British Politics Thread.

[Mr Mystery]

It's also clear that it's a tiny, almost laughably so, minority of Muslims who are in any way 'extremist'. That most of them are young men is no big surprise. Granted their actions are magnitudes larger, but it's the same story every generation has faced - and this time we're facing a generation of young Muslim men who have been treated with suspicion and contempt ever since 12 September 2001....

[Kirsten]

And before unfortunately

[Mr Mystery]

True enough.

The distrust of Western society stems from somewhere, after all.

I make no excuses whatsoever for their actions, but the poor sods have been effectively brainwashed, and the constant finger pointing and scape goating in our media, no to mention their outright racist stance and reporting only helps the evil sods doing it.

[CoffeeGrunt]

It's easier to be the devil himself if everyone treats you that way already...

[Mr Mystery]

Yup.

Seriously. This all properly kicked off 14 years ago. That's a helluva long time to be exposed to overt bigotry, with few people challenging it.

Daily Mail, Daily Express and The Scum all have their share of the blame here. Headlines screaming with racism, and nobody did a thing to stop them.

[Alaric]

I would say it kicked off back in the first crusade and has been going anywhere but uphill since then.

[Mr Mystery]

[Kirsten]

Britain First are, naturally, claiming that the documentary is a lefty BBC hatchet job designed to make them look bad. because obviously when you are filmed going in to restaurants and threatening managers, handing out hate filled material, caught lying on camera repeatedly, and trying to intimidate people in the street, it is all a conspiracy to make you look like some sort of racist...

[Haighus]

....you can give your limbs for your country, but don't expect owt in return

To be fair, something the MoD does really well is give wounded servicepeople excellent prosthetic limbs- they get some of the most advanced prostheses available, usually myoelectric models now, which provide amazing functionality compared to what was available two decades ago. Pretty much every function a normal hand can do can be done by an MoD myoelectric one, it just does it slower at the moment, so they are pretty decent. They also have an MoD-run rehabilitation hospital solely for military amputees. I believe the Charities have a greater hand in the social aspect of caring for ex-servicepeople, but the MoD's treatment of amputees far exceeds that of the NHS for the general populace in terms of functional prostheses. Warhammer 40k-level prostheses is not that far away nowadays... (IG class prostheses at least).

[Mr Mystery]

Yet we see too many ex-Service men and women struggle with life on civvies street.

We may be leagues ahead of the US in post-care, but we've got a long way to go.

And this is coming from a left-wing pacifist.