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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosplodge View Post
    40k gamer, cigerettes, alcohol, and petrol are all taxed heavily here, but whats worse is you pay VAT on a price that includes duty, so you pay tax on a tax.
    Ouch! I forgot the VAT! It is a lot higher then our sales tax which varies from 0-10% depending upon where you are in the country at the time. Cigs and Alcohol are hit with what is laughably called "sin" taxes here and petrol has taxes layered on at the state and federal levels to maintain the roads. Looks like our "sin" taxes are nowhere near as high as those in the UK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotthammer View Post
    Well I used to earn $100k a year, then I got sick so (after several months so I could go through my savings because that's how it works because I had assets) I now get $200 a week. Like I literally am so sick I cannot work and have been for a year, but I still have bills to pay, medication to buy, pay for my car, specialists (some of which are $400 a visit - literally a month's entire income!). Plus also the fact that when you're unemployed (for whatever reason) you lose massive parts of your social life, feel useless and awful, are looked down on by society, and have to justify why you feel you should not be thrown into poverty because of events out of your control. But hey, I'm just sat on my bahooky so what would I know
    Damn, I thought medical needs were covered in other parts of the world! Sorry you are having to go through such an awful time. I understand your feelings about these things, when you can't contribute, society has a way of making you feel bad about yourself. It doesn't make it true, but it still makes a person feel like boiled crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotthammer View Post
    It's not that the govt gives you $33k no matter what, it's that everyone is given at least $33k a year, so if you earn more from working (ie $43k) that is your income with nothing from the govt.
    It's a nice sentiment but I don't see a safety net program like that working in the US as things stand now. Illegal immigrants already put a strain on the US social systems as they are provided government assistance programs event though they aren't even legally supposed to be here. What is even more ridiculous is immigration gives people trying to go the legal route holy hell at being here while turning a blind eye to the poor border crashers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotthammer View Post
    It's not that the govt gives you $33k no matter what, it's that everyone is given at least $33k a year, so if you earn more from working (ie $43k) that is your income with nothing from the govt.
    Getting about 2600$ a month no matter what and no matter who is exactly what is discussed in Switzerland. But as I understood it, when reading the Swiss site, it's expected that wages will sink about that amount because employers are supposed to be taxed that amount to pay for the unconditional basic income that you get from the state.

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    I wonder how much of the swiss system is funded by other people's gold from WWII?
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    That video is why I am voting conservative for another term.

    Poverty is unfortunately relative.

    Giving people additional monies doesn't actually make things cheaper, (if you don't believe me look at the issues of hyperinflation, locals are paid loads a monies in local money but can't buy bread). Inflation tends to rise along side wages.

    The next question is what do you include as state support?

    In switzerland for example, you have to pay insurance for your healthcare, in the UK you just rock up to your local clinic /a&e

    Calaculate your switzerland tax here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshade View Post
    That video is why I am voting conservative for another term.

    Poverty is unfortunately relative.

    Giving people additional monies doesn't actually make things cheaper, (if you don't believe me look at the issues of hyperinflation, locals are paid loads a monies in local money but can't buy bread). Inflation tends to rise along side wages.

    The next question is what do you include as state support?

    In switzerland for example, you have to pay insurance for your healthcare, in the UK you just rock up to your local clinic /a&e

    Calaculate your switzerland tax here:

    [url]http://www.estv2.admin.ch/e/dienstleistungen/steuerrechner/steuerrechner.htm[/url]
    This time, I'm also voting Conservative, but it's more against UKIP than for the Tories. (for those confused, The Conservative Party are known as The Tories in the UK. I'm not entirely sure why myself, but they are!).

    All parties have to do something about the deficit, and all parties are pledging to do that. So in the general run of things, who I'd vote for is moot. But with UKIP getting far, far more media attention than their meagre efforts deserve, I want to do what I can to make sure their little gravy train stops here and now. Yes their presence may damage the Tories in the long run, but they're far too dangerous in terms of outlook and attitude, and threaten to drag Britain back into the dark ages whilst desperately seeking an England (notably an England....) they once saw in an Ealing comedy and are convinced actually existed.
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    [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-29447931]Mmmmm! Local Government Bueraucracy nonsense![/url]

    Could be any council, any where in the country.

    Though there is a small part of me finding the 'black is best' quote from a Tory surprisingly funny!
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    Does anyone else really like Theresa May? She seems bold and effective.
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    Dunno. I don't dislike her anymore than other politicians, unlike Michael Gove who I feel should be locked away in a box somewhere, stop him from interfering in general.
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    I instinctively distrust her just from looking at her, which isn't the same as the general distrust I have of anyone who's a politician.

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