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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mystery View Post
    Nah. Victorian era revolutionised how we helped the poorest.

    Daily Mail are much more Dark Ages inclined. Fear everything, despise everyone.
    I work for an Environmental company, and one of my colleagues has a cousin who works as an editor for the Mail. She's apparently a Climate Change denier, though whenever asked about it, her response is, "let's just agree to disagree."

    I.e., all opinion, no backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeGrunt View Post
    I work for an Environmental company, and one of my colleagues has a cousin who works as an editor for the Mail. She's apparently a Climate Change denier, though whenever asked about it, her response is, "let's just agree to disagree."

    I.e., all opinion, no backup.
    Well of course!

    I mean, let's assume Climate Change isn't man made (despite as I understand the majority of evidence suggesting it is) - what's so bad about reducing pollution overall? Do they object to cleaner air and less bronchial health issues in the wider public? Because that would help reduce costs on something else they inexplicably despise - the NHS.
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    If you look back in time the earth was hottest when the dinosaurs were made! Dinsoaurs created this problem and only through burning their dead remains can we fix the issue. So if you look at the long term trend the earth is cooling down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshade View Post
    If you look back in time the earth was hottest when the dinosaurs were made! Dinsoaurs created this problem and only through burning their dead remains can we fix the issue. So if you look at the long term trend the earth is cooling down.
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    [url]http://news.yahoo.com/uk-faces-biggest-threat-security-since-9-11-121816146.html;_ylt=A0LEVyQ5pnNUH7AAKvNXNyoA[/url]

    If these new laws are anything like the post 9/11 US laws prepare for your civil liberties to be eroded.
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    Erosion of civil liberty and introduction of Fascism to combat Middle-Eastern threats, you say?



    Jesus, I can imagine Farage's lot subscribing to this fascist paranoia. I suppose it depends on how far they aim to go, plus in some ways Britain was further along at 9/11 than America was. I mean, like the CCTV thing we have everywhere. We have loads of cameras, America has loads of cops with itchy trigger fingers, I have a personal opinion on which I prefer.

    This next election could be very, very bad if things go the way I fear they may.

    Now we just need V...
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    At least we have it on good authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeGrunt View Post
    Erosion of civil liberty and introduction of Fascism to combat Middle-Eastern threats, you say?



    Jesus, I can imagine Farage's lot subscribing to this fascist paranoia. I suppose it depends on how far they aim to go, plus in some ways Britain was further along at 9/11 than America was. I mean, like the CCTV thing we have everywhere. We have loads of cameras, America has loads of cops with itchy trigger fingers, I have a personal opinion on which I prefer.

    This next election could be very, very bad if things go the way I fear they may.

    Now we just need V...
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    [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-30197545"]This[/URL] is dangerous. You don't stop hate speech by hiding it away. You stop it by letting them hang themselves with their own words, or challenging their arguments in a public forum. All censorship does is suggest you fear what they have to say.

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    I've got to say, as a member of the armed forces, I find people automatically sneering at UKIP and their voters hugely condescending and undemocratic - in terms of the freedom I get up every day prepared to defend.

    A vote for UKIP is no less valid to me than a vote for parties I personally loathe, execrate and despise - to whit labour and lib dem.

    I still respect people's rights to vote that way and don't automatically assume they are one thing or another just for their voting behaviour.

    For example I could as someone described as to the right of Genghis Khan, acknowledge that a labour voter could be highly honourable and principled - yet entirely misguided.

    I wonder why people can't make this jump to UKIP voters?
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