British Politics Thread.

[Psychosplodge]

It's like basicly asking us to pay france and germany money while slashing our services.

[Psychosplodge]

So if [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29750001"]Scotland has a lower drink drive limit[/URL] than the rUK and you get caught in Scotland over theirs but below ours does any ban only stand in Scotland?

[Mr Mystery]

It's almost like the EU [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29751124"]want us to leave[/URL]

I have a sneaking (and not a little paranoid) suspicion this is a bit of a cleverl stunt....

UKIP are gaining traction, despite being manifestly comprised of lunatics, closeted bigots, and not so closeted bigots.

Cameron fights back, very sensibly I have to say, by promising an in/out referendum if they remain in power.

Sadly, this somehow hasn't stopped UKIP claiming, and more disappointing people believing, that they're the only party who would take us out of Europe. Precisely how they would achieve that when the chances of them forming a majority government are exceptionally slim has not been explained.

So DC has a wee word with the outgoing EU Pres, and arranges a little publicity stunt.... Sudden bill pops up, and DC gets to look like a man of political action and clout by getting it torn up and the EU to back down - which is precisely what he needs right now.

[Psychosplodge]

So DC has a wee word with the outgoing EU Pres, and arranges a little publicity stunt.... Sudden bill pops up, and DC gets to look like a man of political action and clout by getting it torn up and the EU to back down - which is precisely what he needs right now.

That's very cynical for you mystery isn't it? Sounds more like something I'd say.

[Mr Mystery]

Not cynical.

Political

EU wants us in. DC has also said whilst he's happy to arrange a referendum, he'd be backing staying in, and wants a chance to trigger reforms beforehand.

Farage? He's kind of out in the cold. He talks a good game, I'll give him that. But that's it. All mouth, no trousers. Single MP, which may double to two soon aren't going to achieve anything, and I'd be very surprised if they last more than one term. Bunch of MEPs who act like petulant teenagers (including turning their backs on the EU flags, and never actually doing any work whatsoever, but swear they're not just scoffing in the trough they claim to want to abolish) - don't have enough clout to do anything. Some councillors, but no overall control. Exactly what influence do they have? Yes, they've galvanised the main parties somewhat, but that's about it. They're a joke, and the punchline seems to be they're genuinely convinced they're a massive political power waiting to be born.

[Psychosplodge]

It's called repatriating funds to the UK. Scoffing at the trough is what the kinnocks and their ilk do
I don't have an issue of turning their back on the EU flag, it's not our flag, and its not an other countries flag, and shows disdain for the institution.

There won't be any reform, it's not in the interests of most of the EU members to reform.

[Path Walker]

Elections should be done every year, would reduce corruption.

That or via a Jury service style system.

[Mr Mystery]

Elections should be done every year, would reduce corruption.

That or via a Jury service style system.

That'd just cripple things. MPs would spend more time vote bagging than actually MPing.

And Jury Service style? Watch Jeremy Kyle for why that would be a bad thing.

[Psychosplodge]

A short jury style would mean the civil service would be in more control than it is now.
Plus I second the jeremy Kyle thing.

[Path Walker]

The idea of yearly elections was a Chartist idea, the idea was pre-massive amounts of advertising for elections, but, the theory is that no one would be able to afford to pay off a politician, and politicians wouldn't be able to afford to campaign, if they were only in office for a year potentially.

The members of parliament are meant to be representative of the people, a jury is a council of your peers, ok some would be unqualified morons with no idea about the political process or how the world works and would push their own ideals into the running of departments despite all advice from experts to the contrary and at massive detriment to the services but that’s hardly different to how it is now, at least that way, you'd have a slim chance of getting a decent, moral, human being in office.