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    A lot of the papers like UKIPs anti-Europe stance because they'd benefit from coming out of Europe, UKIP leadership don't care about immigration any more than the Tories, they want out of Europe to curtail the workers rights, as Lord Freud proved (he really shouldn't have apologised just for actually saying what he believes, people always say they want politicians to be honest, well, thats what you get when a Tory is honest), they don't care about the worker, only the capitalists making the profit.

    If we leave Europe, immigration won't be capped, but the Working Time Regulations will dispear and your paid holidays along with it, Health and Safety regulations meaning your employer has to look out for you at work will go, the Equalities Act that protects your rights not to be discriminated against will vanish.

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    Equalities Act is much like Health and Safety.

    It's bad reputation is down entirely to people working their ticket heavily, and abusing the laws as they stand.
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    Its bad reputation is all from the rich demonising it for the protections it gives the working people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Path Walker View Post
    A lot of the papers like UKIPs anti-Europe stance because they'd benefit from coming out of Europe, UKIP leadership don't care about immigration any more than the Tories, they want out of Europe to curtail the workers rights, as Lord Freud proved (he really shouldn't have apologised just for actually saying what he believes, people always say they want politicians to be honest, well, thats what you get when a Tory is honest), they don't care about the worker, only the capitalists making the profit.

    If we leave Europe, immigration won't be capped, but the Working Time Regulations will dispear and your paid holidays along with it, Health and Safety regulations meaning your employer has to look out for you at work will go, the Equalities Act that protects your rights not to be discriminated against will vanish.
    And how do you evidence this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Path Walker View Post
    Its bad reputation is all from the rich demonising it for the protections it gives the working people.
    You do know a large proportion of UKIP voters are 'working people' by which I take it you mean 'working class' - because a lot of rich people actually work? UKIP voters are not all sitting in their ivory towers in Canary wharf - clearly they are not champagne socialists in Islington either. They are people who think a couple of key things - the first being that the electorate can be trusted to have a vote on Europe irrespective of what Miliband thinks. Second, that actually this country can manage to survive without the EU.
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    Having watched benefits street, and the new programme on BBC3 about chemsley wood, I think people are too stupid to be allowed to make decisions.
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    Mmm, regrettably it is a key part of democracy. But it is a double edged sword - if it is reasonable for Scotland to have an in-out referendum, by true equality and parity of treatment the whole country can have the same on the EU - a matter of principle. Milibandito will not admit this though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshade View Post
    Having watched benefits street, and the new programme on BBC3 about chemsley wood, I think people are too stupid to be allowed to make decisions.
    Hmmm... are you making a motion we defer to thinking machines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mystery View Post
    Does anyone know why UKIP keep having a fuss made over them?

    Greens have more MPs, yet no invite to debates.

    Farage claims upcoming vote in a single by-election to be 'most important in 30 years', which is true, if you discount all other voting activity in the last 30 years.....
    Don't UKIP MEPs massively outnumber greens?
    And in terms of popular support by numbers of votes considering they've displaced lib dems to fourth in most elections run since the last general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshade View Post
    Having watched benefits street, and the new programme on BBC3 about chemsley wood, I think people are too stupid to be allowed to make decisions.
    being saying as much for years.

    However the process of robo-insemination is far too complex for the human mind!
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    Humans really are stupid enough that a completely callous and empathy lacking supercomputer would be a better politician than any human
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosplodge View Post
    Don't UKIP MEPs massively outnumber greens?
    And in terms of popular support by numbers of votes considering they've displaced lib dems to fourth in most elections run since the last general election?



    being saying as much for years.
    Lib Dems displaced themselves.....
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