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    I don't buy that either.

    If GW don't release SG it won't have anything to do with worrying about losing 40k gamers. Going by that logic we wouldn't have space hulk again, again.

    I'm still not holding my breath for any of the SG to be re-released mind you! I think as people have pointed out it could well be in connection to other products such as video games!

    Would love for gorkamorka and necromunda to be re-released though :<

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40kGamer View Post
    GW used to blow things out for discounts when they discontinued or updated systems. About half of my Epic 40k stock came from an end of game liquidation. Another reminder of how much the company has changed over the last couple decades.
    Oh man... I remember when they had some overstocked stuff and just put it up for insanely cheap prices on their website. My dad ordered ten - ten! - Screaming Skull Catapults once, they were like $2 each. And he got five Steeds of Slaanesh (I still have four, one of them he used to modify a Vampire Lord to be a Chaos Lord of Slaanesh, really wish I'd saved that model...) for some stupidly low price.

    Now, everything seems to go in the dumpster or something if it doesn't sell. Especially publications.

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    GW used to blow things out for discounts when they discontinued or updated systems. About half of my Epic 40k stock came from an end of game liquidation. Another reminder of how much the company has changed over the last couple decades.
    Oh, I remember those. Back in '93, I was there for the great Rogue Trader Liquidation. Ogryns for 50p. Rapier Laser Destroyers for £1. Techpriest with two Servitors for £1. Thirty odd huge cardboard boxes filled with blister packs sold off at poundland prices. Then in '98, Space Hulk for £20, brand new. Five metal Scout Marines for £2.

    But that was the nineties. This is now, and GW hasn't had one of those sales in over fifteen years. We know they melted down the unsold metal Dark Eldar models in 2010, as well as all the remaining metals when Finecast came out.

    They don't do sales any more. Discount bundles maybe (oh, the great Apocalypse sale of 2007, how we miss you!) but not sales. Not any more.

    I firmly believe the Specialist Games are a potential gold mine.
    I totally agree. A re-release of Adeptus Titanicus? I'd be over that like herpes, they'd never get me off it.

    Going by that logic we wouldn't have space hulk again, again.
    Ah, but Space Hulk was perfect; it's self-contained, has only two factions, and is the perfect opportunity to do the whole Limited Edition thing. The game could be expanded, but is complete as is. Unlike Necromunda, say, where they'd need to release eight to twelve separate factions. Which could be done, and would be the proverbial License To Print Money, but as I've said - it would require GW to be bold, not timid. And they're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    Oh, I remember those. Back in '93, I was there for the great Rogue Trader Liquidation... But that was the nineties. This is now, and GW hasn't had one of those sales in over fifteen years.

    They don't do sales any more. Discount bundles maybe (oh, the great Apocalypse sale of 2007, how we miss you!) but not sales. Not any more.
    So true! It has been a long long time! I remember the annual 10% off mail order discounts at Christmas which I used to fill out a lot of Specialist Games models. The Apocalypse sale was mindblowing!

    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    I totally agree. A re-release of Adeptus Titanicus? I'd be over that like herpes, they'd never get me off it.
    This is my dream game! I was working my way through college at a comic store when this hit the states so it was my intro to the hobby. We never forget our first love.

    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    Ah, but Space Hulk was perfect; it's self-contained, has only two factions, and is the perfect opportunity to do the whole Limited Edition thing. The game could be expanded, but is complete as is.
    Not to mention that Space Hulk is fun, has a low learning curve and is fast / friendly to play. It really is the perfect stand alone game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    I see this more as a sign that they're protecting their IPs, to prevent other companies making 40K/Fantasy models 'on the sly' so to speak. It also makes it easier if they want to convert these older games to digital/ipad/console games, which seems to be a thing they do now.
    I think this is it. Or, more simply put, for the next half a decade, when GW does something funky and unanticipated with its IP, it is to prevent a Chapter House Leeches scenario - Nid players where is that Doom of Malantai now?

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    Pick the right games (BFG, Necromunda, Blood Bowl spring to mind), and they will self generate enough hype and demand to swallow up whatever has been produced. Price point is then largely moot. BFG as an example - I bought an Imperial Grand Cruiser during the wind down. Cost me around £20 tops. Never got round to building it, so sold it on ebay earlier this year - for £70. That suggests a good level of demand, and although a rarer model in the range, more prevalent ones still sell for relatively silly money.[QUOTE]

    One thing I don't get with this MM - which is why they don't see the amount of money old RT Squat minis go for - not the best of sculpts is an understatement but they shift for an equivalent to Liberia's deficit for 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denzark View Post
    I think this is it. Or, more simply put, for the next half a decade, when GW does something funky and unanticipated with its IP, it is to prevent a Chapter House Leeches scenario - Nid players where is that Doom of Malantai now?
    It's in the same warp rift containing the other popular lynchpin that was removed because of Chapterhouse, the Farseer on Jetbike. Oh, wait . . .
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    That'd be the Farseer on jetbike in the Codex released before they started tightening up then

    And Denzark, it's ok, you can call Chapterhouse parasites.

    As for the Squats? It's likely those moulds have long since perished, so would cost a bit to replace. Mordheim etc were in use until relatively recently (18 months tops I think?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    Given the choice between a new Necromunda gang sprue of 10 guys which a handful of hardcore gamers will play, or a new Space Marine squad which will sell far more copies, I know which I would put into production. Specialist Games are a lovely idea, and I imagine they make good money for the small companies which make similar products (Malifaux, et al.) but GW just won't do it, because every SG kit is a lost 40K or Fantasy kit.
    They still haven't released a 'proper' 40k Chaos Cultist kit. Just the other day I was thinking how cool it would be if they chose to release 4-6 different Cultist kits that could double as Necromunda gangs. Won't happen, but would have been great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mystery View Post
    That'd be the Farseer on jetbike in the Codex released before they started tightening up then
    It still calls into question the veracity of anyone who says "everything that's missing is because CHS wah wah wah". The fact is, the Tyranids codex was butchered and the constant attempts to shift blame for that in order to further a personal vendetta is tiresome. Bear in mind, I only chose the Jetbike Seer because it's a single complete model that's easy to pick on. When you get into the components and options, there are a *lot* of things that don't have representation, and those hurt GW more over the long run; taking my own army for example, I'm a fan of Power Lances for a lot of applications. There's only one official power lance in the whole GW range, and you have to buy a marine on a bike to get it. I don't need marines on bikes, so I go to the bitz markets or 3rd party suppliers to get it. And since I'm already shopping for bits and paying for shipping, rather than buying, say the fancy new Vanguard kit to make my lance-wielding vets, I grab a bunch of old scrub Assault and Tactical Marines I had laying around and polish them up to look the part. But I also magnetized those lances, because given GW's track record, I don't trust that I'll still have the option to take anything other than power swords and maybe axes after the next Space Marine dex drops.
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    I would love GW to do a BFG one off release to go along with an Armageddon campaign, similar to that Stormclaw thing. It is Imperials vs Orks however, and I think Chaos vs. AM would probably be preferred, as GW could then use the plastic cruiser sprues they had with the original BFG starter box. A ground based campaign along with a BFG supplement that could then be applied to other campaigns. Like Ultramar getting invaded by Tyranids, Or Eldar invading a Necron Tomb world. The box would contain something like 6 to 10 ships for each faction. Some sort of heavy cruiser/battleship for command, and then frigates/destroyers to fill out the box. Keep the main rulebook short and sweet, so that you can mass produce it easily for each campaign expansion and then a sheet of stats for each faction's ships. It doesn't have to be a whole miniature range, which is probably what killed BFG's profitability, but just a limited release that goes along with a short campaign (like Stormclaw) with the two factions that are fighting in the land based campaign.

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