Anime cosplayer shot dead while being black.

[eldargal]

Oh and speaking of the UN:

[URL="http://www.examiner.com/article/united-nations-slams-american-cops-as-racists"]United Nations officially slams American cops as 'racists'[/URL]

(not to mention the UNs own problematic issues with race which the article does touch on)

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And the difference between you and the cop right now?

The difference is I'm trying to raise awareness of the institutional problem that is getting people killed, while you and DarkLink are squealing over the reputations of the people whose colleagues are doing the killing.

[Mr Mystery]

That and EG hasn't (to my knowledge) ever shot at someone because they decided they had a threatening skin colour.

[eldargal]

That too.

[URL="http://www.examiner.com/article/pennsylvania-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-prison-for-selling-teens-to-prisons"]Judge Sentenced To 28 Years For Selling Black Teens To Prisons[/URL]

[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/racial-disparity-drug-use_n_3941346.html"]When It Comes To Illegal Drug Use, White America Does The Crime, Black America Gets The Time[/URL]

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[URL="http://www.salon.com/2014/08/24/black_women_are_killed_by_police_too_partner/"]Black women are killed by police, too[/URL].
[URL="http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-and-politics/details/2014-08-black-unarmed-women-girls-without-weapons-killed-law-enforcement/"]The Victims[/URL]

[Mr Mystery]

Anyone know if there are published stats for things like the number of armed stand offs where the Police didn't end up shooting someone (as I imagine most end), and whether there's a racial breakdown of those by percentage and that?

[Denzark]

MM - a sensible question. To make a truly educated statement on this, you need breakdown of police shootings - as a proportion of emergency response, and broken down by legal vs illegal and broken down by policing agency - state, sheriff, ATF, FBI, anyone with a badge and a gun really.

Then you can find if any given agency are above or below the median.

In the question of prejudice, no prejudice is ever right. Writing off an entire section of society without clear evidence is just shallow and beneath the intellects of those doing so and just because you empathise with a cosplayer don't make it an illegal shoot.

[Mr Mystery]

I've seen 'stats' before which show in cases of ostensibly comparable crime (such as being nicked for carrying the old Bolivian Marching Powder) that black people are given far harsher sentences, and indeed are statisically more likely to be fully prosecuted.

And I used ostensibly because carrying a small baggie of Showbiz Sherbert is quite different to being caught carrying half a tonne of the stuff - stuff I've seen isn't terribly clear on whether that has been taken into account in the reporting.

However, verifying stats is never my strong suit!

[daboarder]

The difference is I'm trying to raise awareness of the institutional problem that is getting people killed, while you and DarkLink are squealing over the reputations of the people whose colleagues are doing the killing.

Yeah no, If the cop has behaved the way he did based solely on the other guys race, then he's a racist ****.
I however am willing to wait until I hear more about the situation.

because unlike people here, I don't judge people because of their race, sex culture or creed. I judge them on how they act, including their actions and judgments of others.

Its called equality and you should really try it sometime as opposed to your "Boots on the other foot" attitude

[Gotthammer]

you need breakdown of police shootings.

That is actually impossible as there are no reliable records of it as [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/08/how-many-police-shootings-a-year-no-one-knows/"]nobody is required to report them[/URL].

The most detailed analysis of police shootings [in the US] to date was conducted by Jim Fisher, a former FBI agent and criminal justice professor who now authors true crime books.

“I was rather surprised to find there are no statistics,” Fisher said. “The answer to me is pretty obvious: the government just doesn't want us to know how many people are shot by the police every year.”

In 2011, he scoured the Internet several times a day every day, compiling a database of every officer-involved shooting he could find. Ultimately, he tracked 1,146 shootings by police officers, 607 of them fatal shootings.

“I was surprised at how many shootings, a reasonable person would conclude, were unnecessary,” Fisher said.

[Mr Mystery]

Here in the UK, there is an inquest into every incident involving Police opening fire - every single one.

Granted, the general lack of dakka in our country helps make this feasible. But it is something the US should be doing.

As for unnecessary - that's in the eye of the beholder. In the UK, we've had people brandishing table lighters shaped like guns shot and killed (guy was waving it around, threatening to shoot), and a bloke with a table leg in a plastic bag that some bloke in a pub was convinced was a shotgun shot dead (bloke in pub, that ever reliable source of info also couldn't tell the difference between a Scottish and Irish accent). Former? Yep. Clear threat, take the shot. Second one? No evidence I'm aware of the person was acting in a threatening manner.

[Gotthammer]

Probably shootings like Victor White who "shot himself" in the chest with a gun two searches didn't find while [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/09/02/victor-whites-unbelievable-houdini-handcuff-suicide/"]handcuffed with his hands behind him[/URL].