Rending and Re-rolls on Penetration

[CoffeeGrunt]

Hey guys,

Has this come up in a game when I was using Pask in a Punisher. As you probably know, Pask gives the Punisher cannon Rending, and also has the ability to re-roll Penetration rolls. Rending gives an extra D3 to Penetration on top of the normal D6.

Now, this is a bit awkward to try and work out how to play, because unlike Melta or Armourbane with its standard 2D6 Penetration, you need a result on one dice to decide if you even get to roll the other. Hence you can't just throw both dice down, then re-roll the result if it doesn't get the needed result.

The way I'd interpreted it, was that you would roll the initial D6s, and re-roll any failures as needed, then roll the D3s, re-rolling any failures among them. The way my opponent thought it worked, was that I dealt with the D6s as above, but when re-rolling failed D3s, I had to roll them again as D6s, find any 6s, then roll the D3s on them.

The rulebook's annoyingly absent on any answers to this as far as I can tell. Does anyone have a good answer to how this should be run?

[Denzark]

I don't normally re-roll the d3s at all. Because:

1. Pask allows a re-roll to pen.

2. The roll to pen is just d6.

3. The d3 is only applicable when 6 is achieved - on the roll to pen. So you can only re-roll the 1d6.

[Lord Krungharr]

I concur with Denzark.

[ElectricPaladin]

Me, too.

[ShadowcatX]

I'm going to possibly disagree here. The roll of 1d6 is the roll to pen, no doubt, and that is what is rerolled, however, if you roll a 6 you still roll (effectively rerolling) the d3. You do not reroll the d6 but hold over the d3 roll.

Basically what the opponent said.

[ElectricPaladin]

I'm going to possibly disagree here. The roll of 1d6 is the roll to pen, no doubt, and that is what is rerolled, however, if you roll a 6 you still roll (effectively rerolling) the d3. You do not reroll the d6 but hold over the d3 roll.

Basically what the opponent said.

Yes. If you re-roll the penetration die, the d3 result goes away. If you roll a 6, you get to roll a d3 again. If you roll anything else, the d3 result is irrelevant.