1850 Iyanden ghost warriors

[Donga]

Eldar Ghostwarriors 1850
I've been working up an iyanden based Eldar army. Reasonably competitive but I get to keep my friends, friendly tournament ready (aiming for best painted anyway...).

HQ - Spiritseer 70

Troops
2x 5 Wraithguard (D-scythe)
Wave serpent (canon/scatter) 710

1x 5 Wraithguard (wraith canon)
Wave serpent (canon/scatter) 305

Fast attack
Crimson hunter 160 (a lot of air power round here)
7 swooping Hawks 112

Heavy

2 Wraith Knights 480

1837/1850

How does it look? Have I got the correct proportion of scythe to canon etc???

Any advice much appreciated.
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[wayne williams]

love your painting and love eldar so very much loocking foreward to seeing what you do.

[Donga]

Cheers! But that means actually painting...

[Dave Mcturk]

crimson hunters are an expensive luxury even at 1850pts. youve got a heavy slot spare. stick some reapers in there to taste.

i run a flakarch [2 st7 flak shots at full bs] but even 5 ordinary reapers with ignore jink can cause problems for flyers [10 st 5 shots needing 6's] but good against all bikes as well.

and although hawks are cheaper - i prefer warp spiderz for the same job - 12 ST7 shots against light vehicles is better than 7 haywire' [7 haywire = 2 misses 1 pen and five glances before saves and youve got to get personal] [12 st 7 gives at least the same up to armour 12 and then you bounce away]

and although two kniggits is not as insulting as three its still not going to make you popular !

edit:
[and youve got the wraithcannon for heavy vehicles [a13+] - id stick an extra wraithgun in that squad and run the seer with the scytheguard]

[wayne williams]

also forgeworlds shadow spectres would fit in with the whole ghost army theme and they can act as tank hunters . how effective they actually are i couldnt say though.

[Donga]

Shadow spectres look REALLY pretty, later though.

Dark reapers are a little static for me, there's lots of drop-pod and deep striking unpleasantness round here. They'll be heavy flamered/rapid fire boltered turn 2. I did have the same hawk/spider debate but I painted some spiders in the 90s, they looked good back then. If Jez Goodwin could update the models is be all over them!

I know, 2 Knights isn't going to make friends but they're so pretty and so good!

Edit: damn you iphone auto fill!!!

[0rph3u5]

My 2 cents to the army composition:

You need another Spiritseer with 3 Squads of Wraithguard; in a pinch being able to cast Voice of Twilight either of the two will allow you a greater range of mobility once you army spread out across the board.

And with 3 Shuffle-Serpents* the Crimson Hunter is somewhat redundant as an AA-option; two of them are already doing reasonably well against most flyers (unless of course you have house rules prohibiting the use of the Serpent Shield as a weapon)

And if you want to take advantage of making a Wraithknight your Warlod, one of options with Shield is better as it will attrack the opponents attention even more than a WK would usually do, and then even 5++ is better than no invurnable.

*my term for Scatter Laser/Shuriken Cannon Serpents

I offer up my Iyanded army for comparison:

HQ:
2 Spiritseers
1 Farseer

Troops:
5 Wraithguard with Cannons
5 Wraithguard with Cannons
5 Wraithguard with Scythes, Serpent with Scatter/SCannon/Holofields
5 Wraithguard with Scythes, Serpent with Scatter/SCannon/Holofields

Heavy Support:
Wraithknight with Sun Cannon/Shield & Scatter Laster
Fire Prism with Holofields
Fire Prism with Holofields

It does reasonably well, except against my usual Tyranid opponent (Mawgons), I got very nice games and hard-fought victories out this list.... Fire Prism don't perform as well as I 'd like though

[Donga]

I had thought similar on the grav tanks but night spinners instead of the prisms for anti hord/IG blob goodness.

I'm starting with 1000 (only just got the codex).

Spiritseer
5 scythe in serpent
5 canon in serpent
Wraith knight

Got my son getting his dad Eldar for Christmas. I'll get some games in probably March time!

[ShadowcatX]

Personally, I think over loading on wraith units is a mistake, as is over emphhasizing anti-infantry over anti-tank and short range fire power over long range. Eldar are an army of specialists, take multiple units and let them do their thing.

[Donga]

That's what I did originally, collecting aspects/troop choices. Also wanted to avoid avengers and dragons in serpent spam. The list will evolve over time, once this version is painted and has had a few outings I'll expand the model count.

I'll keep this thread alive and report back on progress, I'll back it up with a painting log too (once I start painting).

Fluff wise doing them as Mymeara colour scheme, using wraiths to fight back from extinction (So there will be shadow spectres at some point)