Sisters of Battle - Drop Pod Army

[DeSteele]

Hi,

Are the points/rules exactly the same for a Space Wolf drop pod as the standard Space Marine drop pod?
If different, in what way are they different?

I know the Space Wolf drop pod is in their Fast Attack section so am toying with the idea of making an unbound Ordo Hereticus Strike Force as I have the Sisters and the drop pods.

Do the Space Wolves have any option for Deathwind/Deathstorm style drop pods?

Do the Blood Angels have a fast attack drop pod option now?

[KnightEagle]

Just now checked my copy of Imperial Armour 2 and yes, space wolves do have access to the deathstorm drop pods from Forgeworld

[Charistoph]

Are the points/rules exactly the same for a Space Wolf drop pod as the standard Space Marine drop pod?
If different, in what way are they different?

Currently, the Codex and Dark Angel Drop Pod is listed in the Dedicated Transport Role, while the Space Wolf (and now Blood Angel) Drop Pods are in the Fast Attack Role.

I know the Space Wolf drop pod is in their Fast Attack section so am toying with the idea of making an unbound Ordo Hereticus Strike Force as I have the Sisters and the drop pods.

Blood Angel ones now, too. Not that there is any real difference between the 4 versions beyond the Roles.

Do note that just because something is in the Dedicated Transport Role does not necessarily mean it cannot be taken alone in Unbound. So, borrowing an Iron Hand Drop Pod for Unbound could be... Interesting.

Do the Space Wolves have any option for Deathwind/Deathstorm style drop pods?

Forgeworld is usually pretty good about "spreading the wealth" unlike the more Citadel-oriented side of the business, and rarely keep codex stuff from the special snowflakes.

Do the Blood Angels have a fast attack drop pod option now?

Yes.

[Joyous_Oblivion]

Just wondering something. If you're planning the army as unbound can't you just use anything in it? Or can one not buy dedicated transports without the corresponding squads?

[Charistoph]

Just wondering something. If you're planning the army as unbound can't you just use anything in it? Or can one not buy dedicated transports without the corresponding squads?

Dedicated Transports are an odd place. On one hand, it is a rule that allows a Vehicle to change Roles and be purchased without using an FOC slot. On the other hand, in older codices it IS a Role as much as Imperial Knight, Heavy Support, or HQ is, and Unbound doesn't care what Role a unit is.

[JMichael]

Sisters are one of my main armies.
No need to go unbound if you don't mind having a few Space Marines on the table.
You could have a Battleforged army and for each cheap 5man Scout or Tactical squad have a Drop Pod (Allied Detachments only allow 1 Fast Attack). Then, since they are Battle Brothers you can embark the Sisters in the Drop Pods (as they are in Reserves).

[Charistoph]

Sisters are one of my main armies.
No need to go unbound if you don't mind having a few Space Marines on the table.
You could have a Battleforged army and for each cheap 5man Scout or Tactical squad have a Drop Pod (Allied Detachments only allow 1 Fast Attack). Then, since they are Battle Brothers you can embark the Sisters in the Drop Pods (as they are in Reserves).

And for 2 Scout Squads and HQ, you can have three. Currently, only available from the Wolves and Blood Angels, though. We'll see if Codex or Dark Angels is updated next of the two.

[JMichael]

And for 2 Scout Squads and HQ, you can have three. Currently, only available from the Wolves and Blood Angels, though. We'll see if Codex or Dark Angels is updated next of the two.

Why not Dark Angels or reg Space Marines? Other than the HQ not being able to take Dedicated (Even with BA only the Lib Dread can take Dedicated). You could still have 2 Troops, and perhaps 1 Elite or Heavy (Sisters could use some Lascannon support anyway).

[Charistoph]

Why not Dark Angels or reg Space Marines? Other than the HQ not being able to take Dedicated (Even with BA only the Lib Dread can take Dedicated). You could still have 2 Troops, and perhaps 1 Elite or Heavy (Sisters could use some Lascannon support anyway).

Those are still under the Dedicated Transport Role for Battle-Forged, so only the Sisters' ICs could board them, not the Sister units themselves, any more than they could board my Crusader Squad's Land Raider Crusader Dedicated Transport during Deployment.

[JMichael]

Those are still under the Dedicated Transport Role for Battle-Forged, so only the Sisters' ICs could board them, not the Sister units themselves, any more than they could board my Crusader Squad's Land Raider Crusader Dedicated Transport during Deployment.

They can still do it. Units in reserves are not deployed, and units in reserves may embark on transports in reserves. Thus when (even a dedicated transport) is placed in reserves another eligible unit (Battle Brothers)may embark on that transport.
While when deploying only the unit that bought the DT may deploy inside of it, any other eligible unit may embark on it.

There is no 'Dedicated Transport Role'.
p120, Dedicated transports assume the role of the unit they were bought for. So a Drop Pod for a Tactical squad has the Troops role.
The Role mostly matters for Objective Secured. So a Dedicated transport that has the 'Troops' Role (b/c it was bought for a Tactical Squad) also then would have Objective Secured in a CAD.

Regardless I don't see how the role makes any difference on what unit or ally can embark on it. A Dominion squad (Fast Attack) could still embark on a transport that was bought for a Troops choice (Sisters or Marines). Just like if you bought a Land Raider as a Heavy, any of your Elite Terminators can still embark (or deploy) in it.

Again the difference here is deploying vs embarking. If you kept your Land Raider Crudader (Dedicated Transport) in reserves, then any Battle Brother unit can be embarked on it when you declare reserves.
But if if the Land Raider is deployed on the table, then no unit, other than the one that bought it may be deployed inside of it. Though they may embark on it in turn 1.

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Just to have page ref as well, all from the Rulebook.
Dedicated Transports p82 - When it is deployed, they can only carry the unit it was selected with. After the game begins it can transport any friendly unit.
Dedicated Transports Role p120 - Dedicated transports do not use up a slot on the FOC but count as having the same Battlefield Role as the unit it was bought for.
Reserves p135 - Players can choose to not deploy some of their units to keep them in Reserves. You must declare which units are embarked on any Transports also in Reserves.