Super mobility space wolves list

[geneticdeviant]

Hey guys

I wanted to make a Space Wolves army list that was Super Mobile. Below i have lists for 2k, 3k and 4k army lists using standard rules and FOC.


HQ'S:

1/ WOLF LORD WITH:

THUNDERWOLF MOUNT
RUNIC ARMOUR
THUNDER HAMMER
STORM BOLTER
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE
SAGA OF THE WARRIOR BORN



2/ WOLF GUARD BATTLE LEADER WITH:

THUNDERWOLF MOUNT
RUNIC ARMOUR
THUNDER HAMMER
STORMBOLTER
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE
SAGA OF THE BEASTSLAYER
MELTA BOMBS
MARK OF THE WULFEN


3/ RUNE PRIEST WITH:

SPACE MARINE BIKE
RUNIC ARMOUR
CHOOSER OF THE SLAIN
MELTA BOMBS
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE


FAST ATTACK:

1,2,3/ THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY <5 UNITS> X 3 WITH:

2 W/ MELTABOMBS
1 W/ POWER FIST
1 W/ MARK OF THE WULFEN


TROOPS:
1,2/ GREY HUNTERS <10 UNITS> X 2 WITH:

1 W/ FLAMER
1 W/ MELTAGUN
1 W/ MARK OF WULFEN
WITH RHINO TRANSPORT





FOR 3000 POINT ARMY ADD THE FOLLOWING:

TROOPS:

1/ BLOOD CLAWS <15 UNITS> WITH:

1 W/ FLAMER
1 W/ MELTAGUN
1 W/ POWER FIST
1 UPGRADED TO LUKAS THE TRIKSTER
WITH LAND RAIDER CRUSADER


ELITES:

1/ IRON PRIEST WITH:

THUNDERWOLF MOUNT
FOUR CYBERWOLVES
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE


2/ WOLF GUARD PACK <10 UNITS> WITH:

1 W/ POWER FIST
1 W/ COMBI MELTA
1 W/ COMBI FLAMER
1 W/ POWER WEAPON

WITH RHINO TRANSPORT





FOR 4000 POINT ARMY ADD THE FOLLOWING:

HQ:

1/ CANIS WOLBORN

ELITES:

1/ UPGRADE ONE WOLF GUARD TO ARJAC ROCKFIST

2/ WOLF GUARD PACK <10 UNITS> WITH:

1 W/ POWER FIST
1 W/ COMBI MELTA
1 W/ COMBI FLAMER
1 W/ POWER WEAPON

WITH RHINO TRANSPORT


HEAVY SUPPORT:

1/ LONG FANGS <6 UNITS, 5 PLUS SQUAD LEADER> WITH:

2 W/ MISSILE LAUNCHERS
2 W/ LASCANNONS
1 W/ HEAVY BOLTER

WITH TWIN LINKED LASCANNON / HUNTER KILLER MISSILE RAZORBACK TRANSPORT


2/ VINDICATOR WITH:

STORM BOLTER
HUNTER KILLER MISSILE
SIEGE SHIELD
DOZER BLADE
EXTRA ARMOUR



So what do you think guys, all comments, both positive or negative welcome. Are there any changes you would make to the lists above.

Please leave your feedback. Thanks in advance.


PS: Sorry for the CAPS - was unintentional

[Sir Biscuit]

Fist, drop the runes priests. They don't have a unit to hang out with, since if you put them with wolves the unit loses the 12" move, and the 12" charge.

Second, you are going to have a very tough time with objective games. You've taken very hard units, but you've skimped too much on good light scoring units, and utility units.

Honestly, Thunderwolf Cavalry is good, but you shouldn't be spamming it. A good example of this kind of thing is Space Marine TH/SS Terminators. Yes, 5 is good, 10 is workable, but fielding the max of 30 is absurd and makes for a pretty bad list.

Drop some of the wolves, drop the priests, get at least one more scoring unit in there, and some long range anti-tank to crack open transports for your assault element.

[geneticdeviant]

Fist, drop the runes priests. They don't have a unit to hang out with, since if you put them with wolves the unit loses the 12" move, and the 12" charge.

Second, you are going to have a very tough time with objective games. You've taken very hard units, but you've skimped too much on good light scoring units, and utility units.

Honestly, Thunderwolf Cavalry is good, but you shouldn't be spamming it. A good example of this kind of thing is Space Marine TH/SS Terminators. Yes, 5 is good, 10 is workable, but fielding the max of 30 is absurd and makes for a pretty bad list.

Drop some of the wolves, drop the priests, get at least one more scoring unit in there, and some long range anti-tank to crack open transports for your assault element.

What scoring unit configuration would you add, and which long range anti-tank?

[Unholy_Martyr]

Hey guys

I wanted to make a Space Wolves army list that was Super Mobile. Below i have lists for 2k, 3k and 4k army lists using standard rules and FOC.


HQ'S:

1/ WOLF LORD WITH:

THUNDERWOLF MOUNT
RUNIC ARMOUR
THUNDER HAMMER
STORM BOLTER
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE
SAGA OF THE WARRIOR BORN



2/ WOLF GUARD BATTLE LEADER WITH:

THUNDERWOLF MOUNT
RUNIC ARMOUR
THUNDER HAMMER
STORMBOLTER
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE
SAGA OF THE BEASTSLAYER
MELTA BOMBS
MARK OF THE WULFEN


3/ RUNE PRIEST WITH:

SPACE MARINE BIKE
RUNIC ARMOUR
CHOOSER OF THE SLAIN
MELTA BOMBS
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE


FAST ATTACK:

1,2,3/ THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY <5 UNITS> X 3 WITH:

2 W/ MELTABOMBS
1 W/ POWER FIST
1 W/ MARK OF THE WULFEN


TROOPS:
1,2/ GREY HUNTERS <10 UNITS> X 2 WITH:

1 W/ FLAMER
1 W/ MELTAGUN
1 W/ MARK OF WULFEN
WITH RHINO TRANSPORT





FOR 3000 POINT ARMY ADD THE FOLLOWING:

TROOPS:

1/ BLOOD CLAWS <15 UNITS> WITH:

1 W/ FLAMER
1 W/ MELTAGUN
1 W/ POWER FIST
1 UPGRADED TO LUKAS THE TRIKSTER
WITH LAND RAIDER CRUSADER


ELITES:

1/ IRON PRIEST WITH:

THUNDERWOLF MOUNT
FOUR CYBERWOLVES
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE


2/ WOLF GUARD PACK <10 UNITS> WITH:

1 W/ POWER FIST
1 W/ COMBI MELTA
1 W/ COMBI FLAMER
1 W/ POWER WEAPON

WITH RHINO TRANSPORT





FOR 4000 POINT ARMY ADD THE FOLLOWING:

HQ:

1/ CANIS WOLBORN

ELITES:

1/ UPGRADE ONE WOLF GUARD TO ARJAC ROCKFIST

2/ WOLF GUARD PACK <10 UNITS> WITH:

1 W/ POWER FIST
1 W/ COMBI MELTA
1 W/ COMBI FLAMER
1 W/ POWER WEAPON

WITH RHINO TRANSPORT


HEAVY SUPPORT:

1/ LONG FANGS <6 UNITS, 5 PLUS SQUAD LEADER> WITH:

2 W/ MISSILE LAUNCHERS
2 W/ LASCANNONS
1 W/ HEAVY BOLTER

WITH TWIN LINKED LASCANNON / HUNTER KILLER MISSILE RAZORBACK TRANSPORT


2/ VINDICATOR WITH:

STORM BOLTER
HUNTER KILLER MISSILE
SIEGE SHIELD
DOZER BLADE
EXTRA ARMOUR



So what do you think guys, all comments, both positive or negative welcome. Are there any changes you would make to the lists above.

Please leave your feedback. Thanks in advance.


PS: Sorry for the CAPS - was unintentional

I'm going to start with your first list and then revisit the rest after you address the following:

1) You have an Independent Character with not Invulnerable save x2. BAD idea, what's worse is that your kit neuters them. The difference between Space Wolves and normal Marines is that our H.Q.'s are unmatched in Hth. Your ideal Lord/ Battle leader on a Wolf Mount should go:

Storm Shield (Or belt of russ), Frost Blade (or Thunderhammer), and maybe Wolf Tooth Necklace and Saga of the Warrior Born (or saga of the bear).

Anything else is just not going to cut it.

2) Grey Hunters: You have comitted the Cardinal Sin: mixing special weapons. Fix that.

3) There is no need for 2 Thunderwolf HQ's. Use those points for either a pack or two of Long Fangs with missile launchers (a pack of 5 with 4 missile launchers is 130 points). This gives you some more long range punch to help you out.

4)Never, ever give Mark of the Wulfen to anyone on a Thunderwolf mount. You're better off not taking it as you already have rending and a base of 4 attacks.

5) I'm assuming you're going 3 units of 5 Thunderwolves? If so that is wasted bodies and points. You can drop them down to 3 guys, 1 w/power fist, 1 w/melta bombs, 1 plain. Maximize their abilities and have enough points for two more full squads of grey hunters. I would do 10 Grey hunters with 2x Flamers and MotW in a rhino if you go for more troops.

Understand these are the biggest issues with your plans and that you should double check some things in the codex. The lists are bold but just be careful not to go crazy with all the toys we Wolves get.

[geneticdeviant]

Yes, agreed about the Mark of Wulfen on the Thunderwolves, realised why i shouldn't have taken whilst playing a game using this unit last night.

The unit of 5 Thunderwolves however performed very well with the exception of mark of the wulfen, so seems a pity to cut the unit in size but i do agree that they are probably too expensive in that configuration. You think three thunderwolves maxed out represents better points value and is more effective right? Is it worthwhile taking power fists on these guys?

Will amend list later - not got codex infront of me right now doh!

Which thunderwolf HQ would you drop, i was thinking of dropping the wolf guard battle leader?

[geneticdeviant]

RUNE PRIEST (100 POINTS) WITH:

SPACE MARINE BIKE (35 POINTS)
RUNIC ARMOUR (20 POINTS)
CHOOSER OF THE SLAIN (10 POINTS)
MELTA BOMBS (5 POINTS)
WOLFTOOTH NECKLACE (10 POINTS)


TOTAL = 180

FAST ATTACK:

THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY <3 UNITS> (150 POINTS) X 3 WITH:

1 W/ MELTA BOMBS
1 W/ POWER FIST


TOTAL = 540 POINTS

OVERALL TOTAL = 965


TROOPS:

GREY HUNTERS <10 UNITS> (150 POINTS) X 4 WITH:

2 W/ FLAMERS
1 W/ MARK OF WULFEN
WITH RHINO TRANSPORT

TOTAL 730 POINTS

OVERALL TOTAL 1695

okay how bout this 2k list, what should i add? was thinking mayb canis and another long fangs if poss?

[geneticdeviant]

CANIS CAVALRY - 1250 POINTS

CANIS WOLFBORN

RUNE PRIEST W/ CHOOSER OF THE SLAIN & RUNIC ARMOUR

THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY <5 UNITS>
2 W/ MELTA BOMBS
1 W/ POWER FIST

GREY HUNTERS <10 UNITS>
2 W/ FLAMERS
1 W/ MARK OF WULFEN
DROP POD

GREY HUNTERS <9 UNITS>
2 W/ FLAMERS
1 W/ MARK OF WULFEN
DROP POD

LONG FANGS <5 UNITS + SQUAD LEADER>

2 W/ MISSILE LAUNCHERS
2 W/ LASCANNONS
1 W/ HEAVY BOLTER


LONE WOLF W/ TERMIE ARMOUR & TWIN WOLF CLAWS & MELTA BOMBS (70 POINTS)

TOTAL = 1210



CANIS CAVALRY - 1500 POINTS

DROP THE LONE WOLF

ADD FOLLOWING:

WOLF GUARD TERMINATORS <5 UNITS>
W/ THUNDER HAMMER & CHAINFISTS
IN RHINO

OVERALL TOTAL 1485



CANIS CAVALRY - 2000 POINT

GO WITH 1500 LIST AND ADD THE FOLLOWING:

WOLF GUARD PACK <10 UNITS>
1 W/ MARK OF THE WULFEN
ALL WITH POWER WEAPON INSTEAD OF CLOSE COMBAT WEAPON OR BOLT PISTOL
IN RHINO TRANSPORT
ONE WOLF GUARD UPGRADED TO ARJAC ROCKFIST


OVERALL TOTAL 1960



CANIS CAVALRY - 3000 POINTS

ADD THE FOLLOWING:


LONG FANGS <5 UNITS + SQUAD LEADER>

2 W/ MISSILE LAUNCHERS
2 W/ LASCANNONS
1 W/ HEAVY BOLTER



THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY <5 UNITS>
2 W/ MELTA BOMBS
1 W/ POWER FIST


GREY HUNTERS <10 UNITS>
2 W/ FLAMERS
1 W/ MARK OF WULFEN
DROP POD


WOLF GUARD TERMINATORS <5 UNITS)
W/ THUNDER HAMMER & CHAINFISTS
IN RHINO

OVERALL TOTAL = 2945

CANIS CAVALRY - 4000 POINTS

ADD THE FOLLOWING:

LONG FANGS <5 UNITS + SQUAD LEADER>

2 W/ MISSILE LAUNCHERS
2 W/ LASCANNONS
1 W/ HEAVY BOLTER



THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY <5 UNITS>
2 W/ MELTA BOMBS
1 W/ POWER FIST


BLOOD CLAWS <15 UNITS> WITH:

1 W/ FLAMER
1 W/ MELTAGUN
1 UPGRADED TO LUKAS THE TRIKSTER
WITH LAND RAIDER CRUSADER

NB: I BELIEVE THIS TO BE LEGAL, I KNOW INCLUDING THE LANDRAIDER I HAVE 4 HEAVY SUPPORT OPTIONS HOWEVER UNDER
WOLF GUARD IT STATES A LANDRAIDER MAYBE TAKEN AS DEDICATED TRANSPORT, SO WOLF GUARD TOOK THAT, THE BLOOD CLAWS
TOOK THE RHINO AND SIMPLY SWAPPED OVER.


OVERALL TOTAL 3995

Is this a better list? Comments and feedback please

[Unholy_Martyr]

1250 List:

Drop the Lone Wolf, drop 2 Thunderwolves, make an identical Thunderwolf unit. More bang for your buck and another threat.

Drop the Lascannons and Heavy Bolter, Missile Launchers are more ubiquitous and cost effective.

Give the Grey Hunters Melta Guns for Alpha Strike ability.

Drop Runic Armor and use the save points to buy a Drop Pod for the Long Fangs, that way your Grey Hunters show up all at the same time.

For 1500:

Terminators can ride in a Rhino. Wolf Guard Terminators need either a Land Raider or Drop Pod, your points are better spent on a Dreadnought or two at this point level.

However, I would strongly recommend Troops instead. 2 more packs of Grey Hunters would be advisable.

2000 Point:

If you want to throw in another 500 points, fill out the Thunderwolves First, then revisit with more Long Fangs, you need more long range at this point.

3000 point

Do whatever you want...you have enough points to waste.

[Weafwolf]

One other minor note on the Mark of the Wulfen. Taking it on the Thunderwolf is pointles, as someone pointed out, but you also can't use a TH AT ALL when you have the Mark. The attacks occur with "teeth and claws" only, and no weapon modifications are allowed. So never waste points on a special close combat weapon and the MotW. You still get to shoot if you want a plasma pistol or something like that, of course.