Abaddon's 40K Bolter Is Rubbish

[Path Walker]

But Charon essentially said he didn't get it

False flag opperation.

He's on to us.

[40kGamer]

ROFL!

[Psyfer]

This thread has just been shared by the Andy Chambers on facebook, with "This Guy get its", well done YorkNecromancer, approval from Andy! A great honour indeed!

Sorry to ruin the suspense, but he shared it from my facebook page :P

[Path Walker]

Sorry to ruin the suspense, but he shared it from my facebook page :P

So we know you can't be Andy Chambers

[Charon]

But Charon essentially said he didn't get it

In fact I did not say he did not get it.
I commented on leaving aside the whole warp thing which is kinda essential to Chaos.
I also really liked his writing and I enjoy this style IN THE BOOKS.
You can do a whole lot of things while writing. There is a false Prophet inciting an uprise so the imperial defenders have to deal with two forces... on the tabletop? Not so much.
If you translate books like the whole Souldrinker story odr the Nightlord Omnibus into tabletop you indeed only field worse Space Marines without equipment. That may be fun to read, but it is not fun to play at all.

The problem is the mindet which was created by these books and is reflected by this article.
Chaos has to lose cause its a strictly worse version of space marine loyalists. If you want to keep the warp stuff aside, thats 100 % true. And thats sad.
Also in these books CSM have thunderhawks, Drop Pods,... but we are very quick to conclude: "Lolz they all lost it because its hard to maintain".
On the other Hand we KNOW how (for example) the Ultramarines are organized. But the codex lets Ultramarines break their chapter organisation. It is just adamant about not letting Chaos brak out of this "you are a ****ty poor ******* marine" thing.

[Path Walker]

The books, the stories, the fluff of the 41st millenium is more important to most people than how easily you can win the games you play.

Having the codex reflect who the Chaos Space Marines are in the story is more important than the impossible contradictory and purely theoretical concept of "game balance".

Ignoring the Warp, then Chaos Space Marines are just worse Space Marines, thats true, they're marines without the logistical power of the Imperium to make them work and that should be reflected in the codex.

The books all touch on the fact that the only advantage that the Chaos forces have is the Warp, its also their biggest disadvantage, they always need to the Warp to win, Talos hates chaos, but without the warped and tainted Exalted, he'd never have pulled off his escape. Without the foresight he gained from his Father, from the touch of the Warp, he'd never have been able to rally the rest of the Company behind him. The Warp is Chaos, renegades, Legions, all need the Warp.

And most importantly, Andy Chambers, writer of the first Chaos Codex (the awesome 2nd Edition one with the cool double page spread of the Legions by John Blanche that really cemented their look) and the vaunted 3.5 Codex, disagrees with you Charon.

[Psyfer]

So we know you can't be Andy Chambers

'tis true sadly. You've found me out.


I'm James Hetfield.

[YorkNecromancer]

'tis true sadly. You've found me out.


I'm James Hetfield.

*bows*

My lord.

Also: ANDY CHAMBERS?!

*Faints*

Screenshot? Because honestly, that can't be true.

Can it?

[Psyfer]

*bows*

My lord.

Also: ANDY CHAMBERS?!

*Faints*

Screenshot? Because honestly, that can't be true.

Can it?

It is true:



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Sorry for the thumbnail being so small, not sure how to get it to be full size in the thread.

(Also, in case anyone didn't get the gag, I'm not actually the lead singer of Metallica. I'm just old enough to remember when James and Andy looked like each other's long lost twins )

[YorkNecromancer]

Those were the days...