Eldar/DE 2500 list

[Stone Edwards]

Have a local tournament coming up with the first place prize being an Imperial Knight so decided I need a bit more cheese on my normal list. Right now I'm having issues deciding between the Lynx or another Wraithknight and some other units (like my Mantleseer). The Autarch is there to help with reserve rolls and will probably join the Warp Spiders, I know a Mantle Autarch on a jetbike would probably be better but I already have the model for a warp jump autarch and since I need a few other expensive models I am trying to limit how many new ones I get. The Archon goes in the WS with the wraith guard so they can deep strike behind enemy lines and the Fire Dragons will go in the Venom and will deep strike to try and take out a valuable vehicle, the Venom is small enough that I'm not that worried about DS mishaps. The Warp Spiders have an exarch because that's the 5th model I have and it will be WYSIWYG and I don't want to buy more WSs until they get new models , he has the twin-linked weapon for the same reason and because I don't know where else to spend 5 points. Finally I am debating about the Knight going with the wraith cannons or if I should go with a suncannon. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you!


+++ Eldar/DE 2500 (2500pts) +++

++ Eldar: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

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Show FW models [1. HQ, 2. Elites, 3. Fast Attack, 4. Heavy Support]

+ HQ +

Autarch [Fusion gun, Warp jump generator]
··Ancient Doom, Battle Focus, Fleet, Forceshield, Haywire, Independent Character, Plasma Grenades, The Path of Strategy, Warp Jump Generator
··Profiles:
····Autarch: Unit Type:Infantry (Character)|WS:6|BS:6|S:3|T:3|W:3|I:6|A:3|Ld:10|Sa ve:3+/4++|Codex: Eldar (2013) p27
····Fusion Gun: Range:12"|Strength:8|AP:1|Type:Assault 1, Melta|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Haywire grenades (Assault): Range:-|Strength:2|AP:-|Type:Haywire|Warhammer 40K Rulebook
····Haywire grenades (Shooting): Range:8"|Strength:2|AP:-|Type:Assault 1, Haywire|Warhammer 40K Rulebook
····Plasma grenades: Range:8"|Strength:4|AP:4|Type:Assault 1, Blast|40K Rulebook p62
····Shuriken Pistol: Range:12"|Strength:4|AP:5|Type:Pistol, Bladestorm|Codex: Eldar (2013) p63

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Fire Dragons [5x Fire Dragon]
··Ancient Doom, Battle Focus, Fleet
··Profiles:
····Fire Dragon: Unit Type:Infantry|WS:4|BS:4|S:3|T:3|W:1|I:5|A:1|Ld:9|S ave:3+
····Fusion Gun: Range:12"|Strength:8|AP:1|Type:Assault 1, Melta|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Melta Bombs: Range:Melee|Strength:8|AP:1|Type:Armorbane, Unwieldy|Warhammer 40K Rulebook

Wraithguard
··Wave Serpent [Holo-fields, Twin-linked scatter lasers, Twin-linked shuriken catapults]
····Holo-fields
··5x Wraithguard [5x D-scythe]
····Ancient Doom, Bulky, Fearless
··Profiles:
····Wraithguard: Unit Type:Infantry|WS:4|BS:4|S:5|T:6|W:1|I:4|A:1|Ld:10| Save:3+
····Wave Serpent: BS:4|Front:12|Side:12|Rear:10|HP:3|Type:Skimmer, Tank, Fast, Transport
····D-scythe: Range:Template|Strength:4|AP:2|Type:Assault 1, Distort
····Serpent Field: Range:60"|Strength:7|AP:-|Type:Assault D6+1, Pinning, Ignores Cover
····Twin-linked Scatter Laser: Range:36"|Strength:6|AP:6|Type:Heavy 4, Laser Lock, Twin-linked|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Twin-linked Shuriken Catapult: Range:12"|Strength:4|AP:5|Type:Assault 2, Bladestorm, Twin-linked|Codex: Eldar (2013) p63

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Dire Avengers [5x Dire Avenger]
··Ancient Doom, Battle Focus, Counter-attack, Fleet
··Wave Serpent [Holo-fields, Twin-linked scatter lasers, Twin-linked shuriken catapults]
····Holo-fields
··Profiles:
····Dire Avenger: Unit Type:Infantry|WS:4|BS:4|S:3|T:3|W:1|I:5|A:1|Ld:9|S ave:4+|Codex: Eldar (2013) p31
····Wave Serpent: BS:4|Front:12|Side:12|Rear:10|HP:3|Type:Skimmer, Tank, Fast, Transport
····Avenger Shuriken Catapult: Range:18"|Strength:4|AP:5|Type:Assault 2, Bladestorm|Codex: Eldar (2013) p63
····Plasma grenades: Range:8"|Strength:4|AP:4|Type:Assault 1, Blast|40K Rulebook p62
····Serpent Field: Range:60"|Strength:7|AP:-|Type:Assault D6+1, Pinning, Ignores Cover
····Twin-linked Scatter Laser: Range:36"|Strength:6|AP:6|Type:Heavy 4, Laser Lock, Twin-linked|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Twin-linked Shuriken Catapult: Range:12"|Strength:4|AP:5|Type:Assault 2, Bladestorm, Twin-linked|Codex: Eldar (2013) p63

Dire Avengers [5x Dire Avenger]
··Ancient Doom, Battle Focus, Counter-attack, Fleet
··Wave Serpent [Holo-fields, Twin-linked scatter lasers, Twin-linked shuriken catapults]
····Holo-fields
··Profiles:
····Dire Avenger: Unit Type:Infantry|WS:4|BS:4|S:3|T:3|W:1|I:5|A:1|Ld:9|S ave:4+|Codex: Eldar (2013) p31
····Wave Serpent: BS:4|Front:12|Side:12|Rear:10|HP:3|Type:Skimmer, Tank, Fast, Transport
····Avenger Shuriken Catapult: Range:18"|Strength:4|AP:5|Type:Assault 2, Bladestorm|Codex: Eldar (2013) p63
····Plasma grenades: Range:8"|Strength:4|AP:4|Type:Assault 1, Blast|40K Rulebook p62
····Serpent Field: Range:60"|Strength:7|AP:-|Type:Assault D6+1, Pinning, Ignores Cover
····Twin-linked Scatter Laser: Range:36"|Strength:6|AP:6|Type:Heavy 4, Laser Lock, Twin-linked|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Twin-linked Shuriken Catapult: Range:12"|Strength:4|AP:5|Type:Assault 2, Bladestorm, Twin-linked|Codex: Eldar (2013) p63

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Crimson Hunter [Exarch, Two Bright Lances]
··Precision Shots, Skyhunter, Vector Dancer
··Profiles:
····Crimson Hunter (Exarch): BS:5|Front:10|Side:10|Rear:10|HP:3|Type:Vehicle (Flyer)|Codex: Eldar (2013) p39
····Bright lance: Range:36"|Strength:8|AP:2|Type:Heavy 1, Lance|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Pulse Laser: Range:48"|Strength:8|AP:2|Type:Heavy 2|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62

Crimson Hunter [Two Bright Lances]
··Skyhunter, Vector Dancer
··Profiles:
····Crimson Hunter: BS:4|Front:10|Side:10|Rear:10|HP:3|Type:Vehicle (Flyer)|Codex: Eldar (2013) p39
····Bright lance: Range:36"|Strength:8|AP:2|Type:Heavy 1, Lance|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Pulse Laser: Range:48"|Strength:8|AP:2|Type:Heavy 2|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62

Warp Spiders [4x Warp Spider with Deathspinner]
··Ancient Doom, Battle Focus, Fleet, Hit & Run, Warp Jump Generator
··Warp Spider Exarch [Twin-Linked Death Spinner]
··Profiles:
····Warp Spider: Unit Type:Jet Pack Infantrry|WS:4|BS:4|S:3|T:3|W:1|I:5|A:1|Ld:9|Save: 3+
····Warp Spider Exarch: Unit Type:Jet Pack Infantrry (Character)|WS:5|BS:5|S:3|T:3|W:1|I:5|A:2|Ld:9|Sav e:3+
····Death Spinner: Range:12"|Strength:6|AP:-|Type:Assault 2, Monofilament|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62
····Twin-Linked Death Spinner: Range:12"|Strength:6|AP:-|Type:Assault 2, Twin-Linked, Monofilament

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Wraithknight [Two Heavy Wraithcannons]
··Ancient Doom, Fearless
··Profiles:
····Wraithknight: Unit Type:Jump Monstrous Creature|WS:4|BS:4|S:10|T:8|W:6|I:5|A:4|Ld:10|Save :3+
····Heavy Wraithcannon: Range:36"|Strength:10|AP:2|Type:Assault 1, Distort

+ Lords of War +

Lynx * [Pulsar, Scatter laser]
··Sky-hunter
··Profiles:
····Lynx: BS:4|Front:11|Side:11|Rear:11|HP:6|Type:Super-Heavy Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer)|Imperial Armour: Apocalypse p97
····Eldar Titan Holo-Fields: Description:|Codex: Eldar (2013)
····Pulsar: Range:60"|Strength|AP:2|Type:Primary Weapon 2, Large Blast
····Scatter Laser: Range:36"|Strength:6|AP:6|Type:Heavy 4, Laser Lock|Codex: Eldar (2013) p62

++ Dark Eldar: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++

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Archon [Agoniser, Haywire Grenades, Kabalite Armour, Shadow field, Splinter Pistol, The Armour of Misery, Webway portal]
··Fleet, Haywire, Independent Character, Night Vision, Power from Pain
··Profiles:
····Archon: Unit Type:Infantry (ch)|WS:7|BS:7|S:3|T:3|W:3|I:7|A:4|Ld:10|Save:5+
····Kabalite Armor: Description:5+ Armour Save
····Shadow field: Description:A shadow field confers a 2+ invulnerable save. The shadow field save is lost for the rest of the battle at the end of any phase in which the model suffers one or more unsaved wounds.
····The Armour of Misery: Description:The Armour of Misery confers a 4+ Armour Save, a 6+ invulnerable save and the Fear special rule. All enemy units within 6" of the bearer suffer a -2 Leadership penalty.
····Webway portal: Description:If a model with a webway portal is in Reserves or Ongoing Reserves, then the model and any unit it has joined or is embarked upon has the Deep Strike special rule. This model, and his unit, will not scatter if arriving from Deep Strike Reserve.
····Agoniser: Range:-|Strength:User|AP:3|Type:Melee, Poisoned (4+)
····Haywire grenade (Assault): Range:-|Strength:2|AP:-|Type:Haywire
····Haywire grenade (Shooting): Range:8"|Strength:2|AP:-|Type:Assault 1, Haywire
····Plasma grenade (assault): Range:-|Strength:4|AP:4|Type:-
····Plasma grenade (shooting): Range:8"|Strength:4|AP:4|Type:Assault 1, Blast
····Splinter pistol: Range:12|Strength:X|AP:5|Type:Pistol, Poisoned (4+)|Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p58

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Kabalite Warriors [9x Kabalite Warrior]
··Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain
··Kabalite Warrior with heavy weapon (up to 1 for 10 models) [Splinter cannon]
··Raider [Dark Lance, Nightshield, Splinter Racks]
····Deep Strike, Night Vision
··Profiles:
····Kabalite Warrior: Unit Type:Infantry|WS:4|BS:4|S:3|T:3|W:1|I:5|A:1|Ld:8|S ave:5+
····Raider: BS:4|Front:10|Side:10|Rear:10|HP:3|Type:Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped, Transport (10)
····Kabalite Armor: Description:5+ Armour Save
····Nightshield: Description:A vehicle with night shields has the Stealth special rule.
····Splinter Racks: Description:Whilst a model is embarked on a vehicle with splinter racks, all splinter weapons have the Twin-linked special rule.
····Close Combat Weapon: Range:-|Strength:User|AP:-|Type:Melee
····Dark Lance: Range:36"|Strength:8|AP:2|Type:Heavy 1, Lance
····Splinter Cannon: Range:36"|Strength:1|AP:5|Type:Salvo 4/6 , Poisoned (4+)
····Splinter Rifle: Range:24|Strength:1|AP:5|Type:Rapid Fire, Poisoned (4+)

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Venom [Splinter Cannon]
··Deep Strike, Night Vision
··Profiles:
····Venom: BS:4|Front:10|Side:10|Rear:10|HP:2|Type:Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped, Transport (5)
····Flickerfield: Description:A vehicle with a flickerfield has a 5+ invulnerable save.
····Splinter Cannon: Range:36"|Strength:1|AP:5|Type:Salvo 4/6 , Poisoned (4+)

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[Charon]

Depending on your model count and your willingness to refine the list I would suggest the following:

Autarch with Fusion Gun + Fire Drakes in a Serpent (a Warp Jump Generator could possibly kill him)
No Wraithguard (too much points, too easily killed in big games like that)
No Crimson Hunters (too much points)
No Raider Gunboat. In 9 out o 10 cases venoms are better for equal points.

You could replace it with:
Grotesques on a Raider + Archon
Multiple Venoms with 5 Kabalites + Blaster
Venom with Trueborn + 4 Blaster
Possibly Razorwings with Lances instead of the crimson hunters (less points, 4 missiles)
Depending on your local meta Scourges with haywire or Reavers

Should be able to deal with most armies.

[Dave Mcturk]

Depending on your model count and your willingness to refine the list I would suggest the following:

Autarch with Fusion Gun + Fire Drakes in a Serpent (a Warp Jump Generator could possibly kill him)
No Wraithguard (too much points, too easily killed in big games like that)
No Crimson Hunters (too much points)
No Raider Gunboat. In 9 out o 10 cases venoms are better for equal points.

You could replace it with:
Grotesques on a Raider + Archon
Multiple Venoms with 5 Kabalites + Blaster
Venom with Trueborn + 4 Blaster
Possibly Razorwings with Lances instead of the crimson hunters (less points, 4 missiles)
Depending on your local meta Scourges with haywire or Reavers

Should be able to deal with most armies.

at 2500 pts the game becomes a bit of a mental slog as well as a matter of preserving more valuable/effective units

i would tend to agree with charon - but a lot depends on the 'tables' you play on - wraith-scythe are useful to winkle things out of 'heavy terrain' or if there are a lot of DELDAR armies around!

think crimson hunters are overpointed - the DE-FLYERS are substantially better.
i like the void-raven - two st9 lance - better than a fire prism !

i love venom-spam - but if your missions include 'kill-point' style too much they can be a liability - but no more so than raiders

and as an eldar player i am often happy to 'hide' dragons on the ground and do some vehicle swapping if required - they are never going to get a kill in turn 1 anyway ! but i would run 6 with at least a fast shot exarch - i know ppl tend to go against this but the bs5 shots are the bankers ! [and if you have 5pts to spare boost his LD ! - ppl dont like dragons!] charon suggested you pop the fusion-tarch in there - so that might mean you save a few points - but he is your WL so that might prove dodgy.

loving the lynx - we've banned it under 2000pts !