Armada Wave 2 -yes with images!

[draco84oz]

Well, it could be worse, I guess - one person I talked to said that if they had used the lancer, it would have have probably looked to the uninitiated like a female erotic device...

[Brenlak]

Disney has been slipping those under our noses forever, that's no excuse!

[Brenlak]

Youse guys see this?
[URL="http://http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/star-wars-armada-free-wave-2-ships-from-ffg.html"]http://http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/star-wars-armada-free-wave-2-ships-from-ffg.html[/URL]

Might have to do a shout out and see if I can get this organized in my FLGS.
Seems like a great way to promote the game, it hasn't caught on fire, at least in my neck of the woods.

[Mr Mystery]

It's been a bit of a damp squib round my way too. It's got players but relatively few compared to other games.

That being said. X-Wing took a while to take flight round here as well. Wasn't until Wave IV came out that lots of people really got into it.

Also worth noting we're stuck with online purchasing only, as there's no FLGS for about 30 miles (UK distances, before Colonials wonder why that's an issue ) so impulse buys can't occur.

[eldargal]

I have great plans for the Mon Cal Cruiser, but I'm also looking forward to the ISD. It gets played a bit around here, not a heap though.

[40kGamer]

Youse guys see this?
[URL="http://http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/star-wars-armada-free-wave-2-ships-from-ffg.html"]http://http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/star-wars-armada-free-wave-2-ships-from-ffg.html[/URL]

Might have to do a shout out and see if I can get this organized in my FLGS.
Seems like a great way to promote the game, it hasn't caught on fire, at least in my neck of the woods.

Same here. There are a few players but not a lot... I'm hoping to see X-Wing level crowds after we get a few waves into the game. There just isn't a lot of options for people to play around with yet.

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Also worth noting we're stuck with online purchasing only, as there's no FLGS for about 30 miles (UK distances, before Colonials wonder why that's an issue ) so impulse buys can't occur.

30 miles might as well be next door! I used to drive 300 miles each way to visit the first GW store in the states.

[Filthy Casual]

I don't know if it will ever be as big as X Wing, that drew in Star Wars fans and made they table top gamers, Armada just doesn't have that "Star Wars" feel, its always been about the people, the individuals, and the scale of Armada doesn't give that same Star Wars vibe to me, the ships look great but the films were never about huge ship to ship combats but focused on the small dog fights

[Erik Setzer]

It's been a bit of a damp squib round my way too. It's got players but relatively few compared to other games.

That being said. X-Wing took a while to take flight round here as well. Wasn't until Wave IV came out that lots of people really got into it.

Also worth noting we're stuck with online purchasing only, as there's no FLGS for about 30 miles (UK distances, before Colonials wonder why that's an issue ) so impulse buys can't occur.

Well, 30 miles might seem like a lot to Imperialists, but when your city is 885 square miles, that tends to feel like saying, "Oh, I'll have to drive across town for that." Heck, it's 18 miles to get from my apartment to the store we play D&D and other games at on the weekends (including Armada), and as the city's layout goes, we're relatively close to each other.

Okay, so maybe Jacksonville isn't a good measuring point.

I think Armada's just taking some time because there's not much out for it yet. Another wave or two should help it get going. Right now there's like two Imperial ships and three Rebel ships (two of those are pretty small). Wave two adds a couple to each side, so ti's 4 Imp, 5 Rebels. That's better variety. If someone wanted to use an ISD or MonCal cruisers, they couldn't until this wave hit. If they want stuff like Interdictors or Dreadnoughts, that's likely going to be even further down the line.

[Brenlak]

I walk 30 miles uphill both directions, in a blinding snowstorm just to make it to my FLGS... But hey that's just us in the "Colonies" Huuuuuuuge... Tracks of land.

Yeah Armada is fairly new, and it did take double the X-Wing waves before people around here got into that, but I think the slow progress is in the pricing.
The starter is three times the cost of X-Wing starter and the ships are either equal or twice as much (I'm expecting three times as much for the big Star Destroyer). To me that's a wee bit rich to just jump into it, when a star destroyer is $50 and three x-wings are $60 most choose the latter. Heck the big Raider is going to be the same cost as 2 Armada Star destroyers? Raider for the win!
(As I sit here typing this all of a sudden the cost of two extra Rebel Transports just to play Escape from Hoth doesn't sound too daunting...)

Another factor, and maybe its just me and maybe its a bit of what Mystery called jumping the shark, but I have less urgency to spend my money on Armada or X-Wing these days. At first (wave IV) I was slogging around to 3 or 4 stores just to get three of each ship. Now thorough multiple stores and online purchasing I have no problem finding what I need all the time, hell I can compare prices now and shop for the best! I guess I can blame Fantasy Flight too, being so open in there release plan, as well as previews of cards and ships means I can better plan my purchases rather than "This week in white dwarf"
(Maybe that's a factor too, most of my friends play 40k and I'm pimping a game that is basically the same price, only with less customization and I own everything. No matter they don't buy it!)

Anyhow More people should play Armada, its good fun and not the same as X-Wing...
Do you love saying things like "I love it when a plan comes together." now you can because movement is much easier to predict!
Do you love swarms of things? 3 fighters on a base and you can paint them if your so inclined.
Do you love rolling lots of dice (usually a yes if you love swarms of things...) The big Star Destroyer? 4 Red and 4 blue dice from it front facing, show me a ship in X-Wing were you roll that many beauties!

[Erik Setzer]

The VSD is $40. It's also a good chunk of your fleet. You could have a fleet with just 2 or 3 VSDs and TIE Fighters. And the VSD is definitely bigger than an X-Wing, more the size of ships like Slave 1. The ISD should be even larger, if it's in scale. On the Rebel side, the smaller ships are only $20. The core set is exactly the same price as the core X-Wing set, so I don't know where you're getting this notion of "three times as much."

An Imperial Raider is $100 retail. VSD is $40. You can get two VSDs and a set of Imperial Squadrons and have a fleet (granted, you'll be pushing it a bit on using cards to fill points, but not too much). On the Rebel side, you could just take an Assault Frigate, a pair of Corvettes, and a Nebulon-B. No idea of the pricing on newer stuff.

Yeah, you can get "just" two ISDs for the same price as a Raider. That's pretty much an entire fleet in Armada (and, if you know Star Wars, you'll know it should count as a whole fleet!).

The pricing, compared to 40K... there's no comparison. It's leagues better, especially considering you don't have to have massive forces. That's before you get into the point that you can find a lot of the stuff discounted online, because FFG isn't like GW in demanding no discount lest someone actually compete with their direct sales. They think there's no customization, as opposed to a game where characters are increasingly becoming mono-pose? Well, there's a whole Facebook group where people repaint and even convert X-Wing ships, and I'm sure Armada isn't far behind. Yeah, you're not going to see a bunch of converting in Armada, because it's based on a particular setting with specific types of ships. I imagine your friends would never, ever, EVER play a historical miniatures game.