Open-Topped + Flamers?

[Lost Vyper]

So...

IMHO, the flamer-rule for the OT-transport is OP...why? Well...as an Dark Eldar player, who plays Orks occasionally, i find the d6 WAY too much of destruction...d3 would have been enough. If the Venom spam was too much, 4 dicegodz sake, was this the answer? You CAN NOT play, Dark Eldar Warriors or Wyches against Grey Knights. Why? Cos Dredknight is the best unit in the book = torrent flamer = everything dead without an 3+...it really gets kind of boring to play against the GK with Eldar = Wave Serpents to survive, and, oh they are so OP...

So, how would i fix this? Simple, d3 hits inside of an Open-Topped vehicle, ding, there you go GW. Logic and reason.

- Lost Vyper

[Charistoph]

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[Sly]

[URL="http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?52257-Homebrew-Unofficial-Rules"]And the question is?...[/URL]

I think it was:

"Why? Oh, God, WHYYYYYYY!!!!!!!............"

Or something like that.

[DarkLink]

You're playing DE, and you're having problems killing Dreadknights?

[Lost Vyper]

Yep, 36 shots from the Venoms and usually 1 wound, next round, torrent flamer = dead dudes. And if this topic is in a wrong place, please move it.

[ShadowcatX]

Yep, 36 shots from the Venoms and usually 1 wound, next round, torrent flamer = dead dudes. And if this topic is in a wrong place, please move it.

Splinter weapons aren't the answer to everything.

[Lost Vyper]

No s*** sherlock, hard to mount something else on the Venom´s...it´s the flamers & force weapons i´m concerned about, Talos etc. won´t work...

[Dave Mcturk]

yes. the gw sudden love for flamers did come out of the blue. and the DE glass transports probably suffer the most.

think the only answer is blockers. and wait till turn 3 before committing to get the power from pain bonuses

and take eldar allies ?


weve houseruled against certain abuses - but thats down to the play-group !

[ShadowcatX]

Then field something other than venoms.

Also, didn't you complain about this the last time you fought blood angels? Seems like you let him flame 2 venoms in one shot IIRC.

[Lost Vyper]

Well, i´m a whiny guy, deal with it . It might have been (but i think it was against GK and i mishapped with Scalpel to form a line), but with pure DE it´s Venoms or Raiders. Field what? Dave has a point. I lost one game just cos i put too much unit on the table and took the flamers = dead. Sure, Eldar allies work like a charm, but the point was PURE DE-list. BA Tactical-list is normally Heavy-flamer,Flamer,Combi-flamer in a Rhino x 3. Now-a-dayz, thats a good one against DE. Eldar would tear that with WS´s in a second. But the main idea of the discussion was, do YOU think the OT + Flamers is OP?