Craftworld Eldar in the rumormill

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Yeah, keeping the old ones for the autarch and shining spears is a strange move....

[wayne williams]

i was thinking of converting the harlequin jetbike for shining spear to represent a heavier cavalry type unit.

[Defenestratus]

Three wtaithknights still don't lay down four strength D pie plates per turn nor move and assault 36". In apoc pinpoint strength D isn't all that wonderful.

[Eldur]

I don't think that giving strength D to distort weapons is making Eldar too powerful.

In the first place: we don't know the points costs for the units/weapons.

In the second place: main differences between old Distort and new distort (as suposed, S, AP2)...



(kills/hit means starting from a direct hit and dividing each inflicted wound/HP by the total W/HP value from the model. Monsters are given 3W, vehicles 3HP for the example)

Sorry if I made some mistakes, but IMHO it's correct enough. I took into account ID, 1D3 wounds/HP and other bonus for D-rules (and/or exploding results in the case of the Knight). The knight benefits from the 4++ save in all the results shown.


This means that the armies competitively in danger by the rule changes are the ones comprised by elite forces and well-armored vehicles. On the other side, Invisibility is still valuable (or even more).

[Learn2Eel]

Three wtaithknights still don't lay down four strength D pie plates per turn nor move and assault 36". In apoc pinpoint strength D isn't all that wonderful.

They are much, much harder to kill though which will count for something in most games! But yeah, I see your point. Don't forget Wraithknights are also scarier in combat than Revenants, especially 3-to-1.

[Aldavaer]

The change to the monofilament weapon rule will really hit Warp spiders hard in certain circumstances as I is often higher than T for many units, unless you are Tau where Firewarriors are T-1 for I, crisis suits are T-2 and riptides will really hurt at T-4.

So the moral of the story is Warp spiders are the new hard counter to Riptides.

[Erik Setzer]

On the other side, Invisibility is still valuable (or even more).

Fun fact: Invisibility doesn't do squat for being Stomped by a super-heavy walker or GC. You might not be able to shoot or assault them accurately, but just get in combat, and you can squish them nicely.

[Aldavaer]

Apologies for double posting

Iuchiban posted formation bonuses;

Guardian battlehost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Guardians can purchase a Platform for free.

Windrider host: Once per game all formation gets Shred when firing shuriken weapons

Guardian Stormhost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Storm guardians can purchase 2 special weapons for free.

Seer council: They harness Warp charges with 3+.

Aspect Host: They re-roll LD tests and get +1 to WS or BS.

Dire Avenger Shrine: Once per game, Shuriken weapons are Assault 3. +1 to BS

Crimson Death: Preferred enemy (Flying things), 4+ cover save, and if Jink, may re-roll the cover save.

Wraithhost: Get battle trance, if targe is at 18" or less from spiritser, reroll to hit

[Erik Setzer]

The change to the monofilament weapon rule will really hit Warp spiders hard in certain circumstances as I is often higher than T for many units, unless you are Tau where Firewarriors are T-1 for I, crisis suits are T-2 and riptides will really hurt at T-4.

So the moral of the story is Warp spiders are the new hard counter to Riptides.

And Orks just cry if they see Warp Spiders.

[Learn2Eel]

I'm still updating the post, I'll go to bed once luchiban stops (it is nearly 5am here...)