The debit of summoning in aos

[Mr Mystery]

Perhaps to show that if a unit is wiped out, you can't then heal it?

[grimmas]

Why?

Because that's how the game works you don't get to use random rules from other Warsrcolls as you see fit if the corresponding unit isn't in the game.

[Mr Mystery]

Yup.

If you have a unit, you have a war scroll and all its associated rules.

No unit? Guess what?

[grimmas]

What do you mean by 'have the warscroll'? The warscroll is a just piece of paper with rules on it. One of those rules says that Death wizards can summon zombies (or, to put it another way, that zombies can be summoned by any Death wizard). What makes you think that this is only the case if you already have zombies in your army?

Because the summon zombies spell is on the zombie Warscroll not the wizard one which makes it their special rule and you only use the Warscolls for the units you're using so if there's no zombies there's no summon rule because it's not on any of the Death Wizard warscrolls

[Al Shut]

Perhaps to show that if a unit is wiped out, you can't then heal it?

That wouldn't be necessary, the rules already state that

[Al Shut]

If you have a unit, you have a war scroll and all its associated rules.

No unit? Guess what?

you only use the Warscolls for the units you're using so if there's no zombies there's no summon rule because it's not on any of the Death Wizard warscrolls

But where does it say that this is the way it is. I can't find any reference to 'taking warscrolls' right now and frankly the concept that rules for models that are not on the table cease to exist seems kind of odd to me.

[Mr Mystery]

Where is the rule for summoning?

On the summonable unit's Warscroll.

And that's about it. The counter point is 'it's only only Warscroll A to save space on Warscroll Z is beyond shonky, and that's the sole counter point.

[Al Shut]

The counter point is nowhere does it say I have to have a unit on the field for their rules to be valid.

[Mr Mystery]

Really really?

[Al Shut]

Really really!