Fixing Age of Sigmar: Points using Spreadsheet

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Fixing Age of Sigmar: Points using Spreadsheet
Hello, All!
I am posting this everywhere I think it might be useful. I am a veteran war gamer and am interested in playing Age of Sigmar, but like most of the community, I am frustrated by the lack of points/balance, while I am impressed by the quality of the models themselves, as usual. While GW doesn’t always seem to know how to write the “best” rules, their models are amazing! So, without further hesitation, here’s how I propose we balance Age of Sigmar with points:

It has been suggested that we use the Battalion WarScrolls and/or Wounds to balance this game. That is not an accurate way to balance something, as a Monster with high Wounds, such as a Great Unclean One, is worth way more than 20 Skaven Clan Rats. So in order to determine the points cost, I have made a spreadsheet (available for Download in my Signature below as either the full thing or just points costs for what I have put in so far) that will calculate a points system based upon the stats of the models. All you have to do is type in the following stats: Minimum Unit Size, Move, Save, Bravery, Wounds; then for each melee/ranged attack, input Range, Attacks, To Hit, To Wound, Rend, and Damage. Finally, under Additional Points, put in 10 points for each of the following keywords: Hero, Monster, and Wizard. If you desire to try to figure out how much certain special abilities are worth, you can also type that in under Additional Points. Additional Points are divided by the Minimum Unit size, so this is really only important for single model units, such as Heroes, Monsters, and Wizards. For Icons/Banners/Musicians/Leaders of multi-model units, I simply added in 1 point to show that technically this is a bonus to the unit, but that point cost is absorbed across multiple models’ costs.

If you don’t want to know how my spreadsheet works, then skip to the bottom or just download the thing and try it out. I’m considering this a beta test, so if you have issues or questions or suggested tweaks/points cost changes, please respond here or PM me on this forum. I am a busy guy, but I’ll do my best. Since I’m giving you all the resources freely, you could also just make the changes yourself. Hopefully this will help with balancing.
Why am I doing this? I played a game the other day with one of my best friends. He took Skaven. I took Nurgle Daemons. I have 16 models. He had like 68. He had over 100 wounds. I had 50 or so. The game was incredibly balanced. My friend playing the Skaven army won on the final turn with one model left on the table. It was a great game. We both had a blast. How did we balance this game? We used the spreadsheet. I realize that it is a pain in the butt to have to type in these stats and that, yes, indeed, it isn’t our responsibility. Well, I am willing to give you the tools to do this yourself and I am willing to type in as many units/models as I can with the limited amount of time that I have. I will update this from time to time and include the new points. If you don’t like my points value or you want to change the points a little: do it! It’s your game after all. But if you are looking for a balance based upon numbers that maybe—just maybe—we could all agree to, then this just might be it. I will post an explanation further down as the only response I've gotten so far is that the post is too long / needs broken down more. So here's the points and the newest version of the spreadsheet is in my signature:

Points Cost Per Model
Last Updated: 8/2/2015
Daemons of Chaos 8/2/2015

Bloodthirster of Insenate Rage
130 Points per Model

Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury
120 Points per Model

Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster
145 Points per Model

Skulltaker
45 Points per Model

Herald of Khorne
30 Points per Model

Herald of Khorne on Juggernaut
50 Points per Model

Blood Throne of Khorne
50 Points per Model

Bloodletters of Khorne
4 Points per Model

Bloodcrushers of Khorne
70 Points per Model

Karanak
35 Points per Model

Flesh Hounds of Khorne
20 Points per Model

Skull Cannons of Khorne
50 Points per Model

Great Unclean One
100 Points per Model

Epidemius
35 Points per Model

Herald of Nurgle
30 Points per Model

Plaguebearers of Nurgle
4 Points per Model

Plague Drones of Nurgle
70 Points per Model

Nurglings
15 Points per Model

Beasts of Nurgle
25 Points per Model

Kairos Fateweaver
160 Points per Model

Lord of Change
120 Points per Model

The Changeling
40 Points per Model

Herald of Tzeentch
45 Points per Model

Herald of Tzeentch on Disc
70 Points per Model

Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot
85 Points per Model

The Blue Scribes
70 Points per Model

Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
4 Points per Model

Exalted Flamers
30 Points per Model

Flamers of Tzeentch
45 Points per Model

Screamers of Tzeentch
70 Points per Model

Burning Chariots of Tzeentch
70 Points per Model

Keeper of Secrets
150 Points per Model

The Masque of Slaanesh
50 Points per Model

Herald of Slaanesh
30 Points per Model

Herald of Slaanesh On Steed
50 Points per Model

Herald of Slaanesh on Seeker Chariot
55 Points per Model

Herald of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot
80 Points per Model

Daemonettes of Slaanesh
5 Points per Model

Seekers of Slaanesh
40 Points per Model

Fiends of Slaanesh
30 Points per Model

Seeker Chariots of Slaanesh
40 Points per Model

Exalted Seeker Chariots of Slaanesh
65 Points per Model

Hellflayers of Slaanesh
55 Points per Model

Note for Daemon Prince: Axe/Sword swap is NO points change.

Daemon Prince of Khrone
DP Khrone Monster/Hero No Wings
70 Points per Model

Winged Daemon Prince of Khrone
DP Khrone Monster/Hero Wings
95 Points per Model

Daemon Prince of Nurgle
DP Nurgle Monster/Hero No Wings
80 Points per Model

Winged Daemon Prince of Nurgle
DP Nurgle Monster/Hero Wings
105 Points per Model

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
DP Tzeentch Monster/Hero No Wings
75 Points per Model

Winged Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
DP Tzeentch Monster/Hero Wings
100 Points per Model

Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
DP Slaanesh Monster/Hero No Wings
70 Points per Model

Winged Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
DP Slaanesh Monster/Hero Wings
95 Points per Model

Daemon Prince (neutral)
DP Monster/Hero No Wings
65 Points per Model

Winged Daemon Prince (neutral)
DP Monster/Hero Wings
90 Points per Model

Furies
8 Points per Model

Note: Soul Grinder Blade/Talon are equal in points.
Soul Grinder
Soul Grinder Monster Blade/Talon
150 Points per Model


Khorne Bloodbound 8/2/2015

Mighty Lord of Khorne
45 Points per Model

Bloodsecrator
35 Points per Model

Bloodstoker
35 Points per Model

Khorgoraths
40 Points per Model

Blood Warriors
10 Points per Model

Bloodreavers
5 Points per Model

Stormcast Eternals 8/2/2015

Lord-Celestant on Dracoth
80 Points per Model

Lord-Celestant
40 Points per Model

Lord-Relictor
30 Points per Model

Lord-Castellant
40 Points per Model

Gryph-Hounds
10 Points per Model

Prosecutors
35 Points per Model

Retributors
20 Points per Model

Note: Non-special weapon Liberators are 7 points each regardless of equipment.

Liberator (non-special weapon)
7 Points per Model

NOTE: Grandhammer and Grandblade varients are same cost.
Liberator w/Grandhammer/Blade
10 Points per Model

Note: Judicators are same points for Bows/Crossbows
Judicators w/ Bows or Crossbows
8 Points per Model

Note: Judicators are same points for Shockbolt Bows/ Thunderbolt Crossbows
Judicator w/ Shockbolt or Thunderbolt
10 Points per Model

Protectors w/Glaive or Mace
15 Points per Model

Note: Decimators cost the same with the Mace as with the Axe.
Decimators
15 Points per Model

Skaven Next?! Or High Elves? :-p We’ll see. Enjoy!

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