And/Or weapon debate

[Sir Biscuit]

Seems I have a lot of questions need answering this week. Ho-hum.

So, I noticed something while reading over my SM codex. On page 128, under "Options" it states that:

"Where an options states that you may exchange one weapon 'and/or' another, you may replace either, neither, or both provided you pay the stated points cost."

My question is, can I buy wargear and choose "neither" of the options that it is ostensibly replacing?

For example, I buy a powerfist for my Tactical Squad Sergent. It says I can replace his bolt pistol and/or his boltgun for this. Can I choose to lose neither and have a powerfist, bolt pistol, and a boltgun?

And before someone cries OP it hardly is. The only real benefit is that you get an extra bolt shot, and you can take multiple combi-weapons.

Thoughts?

[Denzark]

Without looking at it in the codex, from what you have described,, the 'neither' implies to me confirmation that there is no exchange - in order to get a new weapon one has to be changed out so you can't simply take an extra option.

Try CSM instead.

[harrybuttwhisker]

you may replace either:- You replace either the bolt pistol or boltgun for a powerfist paying the points.

you may replace both:- You may replace the boltpistol and boltgun for 2 x powerfists paying for both

you may replace neither:- You do not replace the bolt pist, you do not replace the boltgun, you do not get a power fist and you pay no points.

Thats it in a nutshell

[DarkLink]

The and/or clause they use probably isn't the best way of wording the rule, since arguments like this can come up, but it's the quickest way of wording it.

Anyways, the rule states you may replace your weapons with other weapons. The and/or only refers to what weapons are being replaced. In order to gain access to the weapons on the list, you must replace a weapon. You can play around with what weapon is replaced, but you can't escape the fact that one weapon goes away in order to get a different weapon.

[Jwolf]

Good lord, no.

[Commissar Lewis]

I think the only model allowed to have more than 3 weapons would be a model of the Resident Evil 4 merchant. Whatever you're buyin', he's got it.

Joking aside, no there are limits to how many weapons you can have. I believe it's at most 3, unless it's like a special character.

[sebi81]

you can have more than 3 weapons if your options allow it. there is no rule any more that states a maximal number of weapons.
but as said above, exchange means exchange. so if you can exchange up to two weapons, you can´t decide to take a third weapon.

[BuFFo]

The power fist option only exists IF you exchange something for it.

[therealjohnny5]

good lord, no.

lol...