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    indeed. if it is true and there is a studio handling it, then that suggests new editions, models etc. otherwise they would just resume casting up the old stuff presumably, wouldn't need a team behind it.
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    True.

    But then I'd argue stuff like Epic and BFG don't necessarily need replacement models for the time being - just new armies adding so everyone is represented.

    Which goes with what you're saying so I'll shut up for now
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    im still praying for new plastic via a boardgame treatment

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    If true - and I really hope that it is* - I wonder if this is partly driven by GW observing the rising popularity of spaceship, skirmish and small scale Sf wargames in recent years (e.g. Dropzone Commander and the forthcoming Dropfleet Commander, Firestorm Armada and Planetfall, etc etc) and thnking, 'hang on, didn't we used to do that stuff and maybe it's time for us to try it again..?'

    Of course, given that the miniature lines for the specialist games were eventually pulled due to low sales **, even the Forgeworld ones, I hope that if they are bringing them back, there is sufficient interest to keep any new games/ figure lines going.


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    Sales are sales though.

    I guess the concern was product development and maintenance. You need to do releases at some point, otherwise a game can become a bit stale. However, that of course costs time and money.

    It's arguable that time is the biggest factor here. GW, like any company have finite man hours to get done what they want to do. Whether it's a model for Necromunda or 40k, the sculpting and development time is likely to be the same.

    Now, Necromunda might sell 5000 units fairly quickly (numbers out my bum, I warn you now!). 40k however? Quite possibly ten times that. So whilst both could happily turn a profit eventually, you get a much better return on 40k.

    That of course is the crude surface. Bigger games are inherently more profitable.

    However.....then you wander into the grey realm of 'feeder games'. The boxed sets are all well and good, but kind of depend on further purchases. This could put off casual consumers, those who think 'hey, that looks kind of cool'.

    I for one got hooked via Heroquest, and for the early years mainly subsisted off Epic (one bloke to a stand made your purchases go further. Important when you're 12 and skint on account you're 12) and fare like Tyranid Attack. But that stuff kept me interested, and the look of 40k and Warhammer was aspirational to me.

    Get this right, and they'll have their feeder games back.

    Provided of course it remains not a wind up.
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    Necromunda would really benefit from new models. a boxed set of ten with masses of options, like GW kits are now, would do you for a gang for ages. if you had a couple of those in a boxed game, you could get masses of terrain in there as well due to the low model count, whilst giving loads of options.
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    Sounds to me like it would be more an expansion to FW, or like FW, so probably resin miniatures - perhaps with a plastic starter like the HH set. urgh, I just want decent NH xenos :P
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    Well, FW have shown they can do fantastic models.

    Consider [url=http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Solar-Auxilia-Lasrifle-Section]The Solar Auxilia Lasrifle Section[/url]

    Absolutely gorgeous models. Really, really 'top of their game' type stuff. But, at £70 for one squad of several you will need for a Solar Auxilia army, a wee bit off putting.

    But.....make that '£70 for pretty much every model I'm ever going to need, apart from weapon sprues' and I'm much more interested.

    Doubly so if they keep it plastic (which to my mind makes sense, but there you go)
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    Iirc one of the HH campaigns has a spot to inject BFG so I wonder if any heresy Era ships will be released. Really hope so as its pretty neat to start with BFG then Planetstrike/city fight/epic and skirmish can all be worked in. Immersion ftw.

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    This is part of the drive from the new CEO, who sees sales as sales and is willing to invest to get them as long as they're profitable.

    When GW decided to sideline Specialist Games, they were in a more commanding position within the industry, now, with advances in technology making it easier and the crowdfunding bubble, thats not so much the case.

    In 2005, a sale for Epic was a sale not on 40k (for example) because generally, a hobbyist is a hobbyist and if they're not buying one model, they're buying another.

    Now, the Epic fan who was reluctantly buying 40k is buying Dropzone Commander, or buying stand-ins from Indiegogo or ordering printed replacements from Shapeways (and weeping at them when they snap in half.) the Necromunda fan is playing Infinity or Deadzone (again, weeping).

    Its now the right time to get those sales back, they've solidified their core product (40k just continues to sell well) they've put a plan in place to stop their second game losing money (Age of Sigmar just needs to break even, which Fantasy Battle wasn't) now they can diversify

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